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bimble
floofy
It is weird hating the politicians so far away much more than our own but yeah. This lot in power there now and for last few years are stinkers of the first degree, and full of malice.I lost faith in the Indian government when I listened to an interview where they said there was no shortage of oxygen. He explained it was in the air all around them and they just needed to put it into cylinders
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LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Was chatting to a friend in Australia other day who was telling me they're not expecting their borders to open to normal traffic until mid-2022. She's feeling very trapped and frustrated, partly the lack of being able to go and see family abroad, but also due to how OK most people in Australia are with that, and also how poor vaccine take-up is (she works on vaccination there). Then this was in The Guardian yesterday covering similar ground
www.theguardian.com
The hermit kingdom: how a proudly multicultural country became ‘fortress Australia’
As Covid wreaks havoc overseas Australia risks regressing culturally and economically if borders don’t reopen
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Portugal opens to tourists on Monday ( providing they have a negative PCR test within 72 hours before the flight ) . Lots of friends of mine starting work at the hotels Monday but expect a steady trickle from outside Portugal rather than a flood to begin with .
The transmissibility index (Rt) of covid-19 rose again. It is 0.95, which means that, on average, each infected person does not pass the disease on to another.
The incidence is in 50.3 cases of infection by Sars-Cov 2 per 100 thousand inhabitants. This, after a day when there were no new fatalities associated with the covid, but there were 450 new cases of infection.
In hospitals, the number of people hospitalized with the disease dropped - minus 8 -, but two more people with covid were admitted to intensive care.
There are now 22 municipalities with more than 120 cases per 100 thousand inhabitants. This is the lowest number of municipalities in the red, at least since November when this information began to be disseminated.
The transmissibility index (Rt) of covid-19 rose again. It is 0.95, which means that, on average, each infected person does not pass the disease on to another.
The incidence is in 50.3 cases of infection by Sars-Cov 2 per 100 thousand inhabitants. This, after a day when there were no new fatalities associated with the covid, but there were 450 new cases of infection.
In hospitals, the number of people hospitalized with the disease dropped - minus 8 -, but two more people with covid were admitted to intensive care.
There are now 22 municipalities with more than 120 cases per 100 thousand inhabitants. This is the lowest number of municipalities in the red, at least since November when this information began to be disseminated.
cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
It's so weird that the UK and EU are now "Us" and "Them"
Yeah, I am not that keen on it, but when figures are quoted separately for the UK & the EU it's not unreasonable to make comparisons.
Of course, the EU didn't help themselves with throwing their toys out of their pram in their dispute with AZ, making various threats & even imposing a border in Ireland without consulting the British & Irish governments, before doing a massive U-turn the next day.
The other big gap between the UK & EU is going to be vaccine uptake, with vaccine hesitancy running high in much on the EU, thankfully the Irish seem to be the most sensible on this.
There's been other surveys reporting similar numbers too.
People in Ireland most willing in EU to take Covid-19 vaccine, survey
Report finds strong association between vaccine hesitancy and social media use
Yeah, I am not that keen on it, but when figures are quoted separately for the UK & the EU it's not unreasonable to make comparisons.
Of course, the EU didn't help themselves with throwing their toys out of their pram in their dispute with AZ, making various threats & even imposing a border in Ireland without consulting the British & Irish governments, before doing a massive U-turn the next day.
The other big gap between the UK & EU is going to be vaccine uptake, with vaccine hesitancy running high in much on the EU, thankfully the Irish seem to be the most sensible on this.
There's been other surveys reporting similar numbers too.
People in Ireland most willing in EU to take Covid-19 vaccine, survey
Report finds strong association between vaccine hesitancy and social media usewww.irishtimes.com
Pity its taking so long to get us all vaccinated over here.
Huge shortages of vaccine.
Be cautious with polled vaccine hesitancy. Asking somebody what they would theoretically do in a hypothetical situation is not the same thing as actually inviting them to be vaccinated, as was proved by the difference between UK polled hesitancy at the end of 2020 and the reality at the start of 2021.
cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
That's true, but the comparisons of responses from different countries is interesting.
I always assumed the uptake increased here, because we got hit so hard over Xmas & into the New Year, but that doesn't seem to play out in the polls of East European countries, that have been hit even harder over the winter months, about 10 are now above the UK in deaths per million, with Hungary the worst on over 3,000 per 1m, compared to the UK on under 1,900.
miss direct
misfungled
The way that tourists have been exempt from curfews and stay at home orders while locals are still stuck at home is utterly disgusting.Turkish tourism video taken down after online outcry
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cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
More reports of massive under reporting of covid death figures in India. 
www.bloomberg.com
The Dainik Bhaskar, a Hindi newspaper popular across India’s crowded heartland, fanned 30 of its reporters along the banks of the river Ganga in Uttar Pradesh state. They found -- and photographed -- more than 2,000 corpses across some 1,140 kilometers (708 miles). That’s when the state government claims only about 300 are dying daily.
Their findings make grim reading: authorities are piling silt over more than 350 bodies lying in shallow graves in Kannauj, the reporters say; they see dogs gnawing at some of the 400 corpses just a short distance from a crematorium in Kanpur; they count 52 corpses floating down the river in Ghazipur, often crossing state borders.
Their findings make grim reading: authorities are piling silt over more than 350 bodies lying in shallow graves in Kannauj, the reporters say; they see dogs gnawing at some of the 400 corpses just a short distance from a crematorium in Kanpur; they count 52 corpses floating down the river in Ghazipur, often crossing state borders.
Small Town Reporters Reveal Coronavirus Carnage in India
Across India’s small towns and villages, local language newspapers are revealing that thousands more are probably dying of the coronavirus each day than the government’s data show.
www.bloomberg.com
cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
I've seen various reports that Modi had disappeared from the public eye, so this stunt did make me smile.
www.theguardian.com
‘Everybody is angry’: Modi under fire over India’s Covid second wave
From an approval rating of 80% earlier in the year, now tough questions are being asked of PM’s leadership
You never know. Happened to Tanzania's president a few months ago, disappeared from public view and then ended up dying of 'cardiac issues.'
elbows
Well-Known Member
Likewise the president of Burundi last summer:
www.theguardian.com
Burundi president dies of illness suspected to be coronavirus
Government describes Pierre Nkurunziza’s ‘unexpected’ death as a heart attack
Modi was in full-on, non-masked, crowd-centric state election mode in West Bengal** very recently, so the suggestion of him being infected isn't that outlandish! 
(**And that was an election that the BJP lost
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(**And that was an election that the BJP lost
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Likewise the president of Burundi last summer:
Burundi president dies of illness suspected to be coronavirus
Government describes Pierre Nkurunziza’s ‘unexpected’ death as a heart attack
bimble
floofy
this is happening.
Stench of death pervades rural India as Ganges swells with Covid victims
Stigma and cost of wood leave families with no choice but to immerse their dead in river
I've read so many harrowing stories from India recently. It strikes me that the stories that actually reach us are what is happening to the middle classes, no one really ever gave a shit about the poor and I can't imagine what is happening to them now.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Many East Asian countries that had successfully kept the virus out by border controls and stringent surveillance are seeing a surge in infections, in most cases due to a single weak point allowing the virus to enter and spread amongst a population and medical establishment that had become complacent. Vaccination uptake has also been low due to a previously perceived lack of need.
Taiwan, Singapore:
"Taiwan relaxed its quarantine requirements for non-vaccinated airline pilots from an initial 14-day period, to five days - and then, just three days.
Shortly afterwards, a cluster broke out connected to a handful of China Airlines pilots who had been staying at a Novotel near Taoyuan Airport. Many of those linked to this cluster were later found to have contracted the UK variant, known as B.1.1.7."
"Singapore's Changi Airport - which also boasts a popular shopping centre - had turned into the country's biggest Covid cluster this year. Authorities later found out that a number of infected airport staff had been working in a zone that received travellers from high-risk countries, including those in South Asia. Some of these workers then went on to have their meals in the airport's food courts - which are open to members of the public - further spreading the virus."
And in Cambodia, Thailand, Indonesia etc
"In Cambodia two prostitutes infected with the more infectious British variant of covid-19, known as B.1.1.7, arrived on a private jet from Dubai in early February and promptly broke quarantine to visit clients, nightclubs and other places. By mid-May the outbreak they seeded had infected thousands of people and killed more than 100."
www.economist.com
Taiwan, Singapore:
"Taiwan relaxed its quarantine requirements for non-vaccinated airline pilots from an initial 14-day period, to five days - and then, just three days.
Shortly afterwards, a cluster broke out connected to a handful of China Airlines pilots who had been staying at a Novotel near Taoyuan Airport. Many of those linked to this cluster were later found to have contracted the UK variant, known as B.1.1.7."
"Singapore's Changi Airport - which also boasts a popular shopping centre - had turned into the country's biggest Covid cluster this year. Authorities later found out that a number of infected airport staff had been working in a zone that received travellers from high-risk countries, including those in South Asia. Some of these workers then went on to have their meals in the airport's food courts - which are open to members of the public - further spreading the virus."
Covid-19: What went wrong in Singapore and Taiwan?
They were once hailed as success stories, but both places are now seeing a steep rise in virus cases.
www.bbc.co.uk
And in Cambodia, Thailand, Indonesia etc
"In Cambodia two prostitutes infected with the more infectious British variant of covid-19, known as B.1.1.7, arrived on a private jet from Dubai in early February and promptly broke quarantine to visit clients, nightclubs and other places. By mid-May the outbreak they seeded had infected thousands of people and killed more than 100."
A worrying new wave of covid-19 is hitting South-East Asia
Cases are rising across a region that had been relatively unscathed
I don't completely agree, although I do see your point.
Some of Hannah Ellis-Petersen's Guardian reports from India (generally excellent, and very often harrowing) include interviews with poor people having terrible and cash-bereft experiences
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
Some doctor in the US got so fed up with the anti-vax brigade he put out some total bullshit about vaccinated people shedding proteins and the best way to protect yourself from them is to wear a mask. Now a load of anti-vaxxers are wearing masks. That's dedication to your own narrative, however wrong.
lol
It's been noticed recently that a lot of these types of people have no critical thinking whatsoever, believing anything that supports their view without really fact checking it. Some people have been using this for the lols against the flat earth brigade. If you want to see this in action google "kreptactic flight sequentials" and see if you can figure out where that came from and now who are discussing it.
lol
It's been noticed recently that a lot of these types of people have no critical thinking whatsoever, believing anything that supports their view without really fact checking it. Some people have been using this for the lols against the flat earth brigade. If you want to see this in action google "kreptactic flight sequentials" and see if you can figure out where that came from and now who are discussing it.
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Yossarian
Get thee behind me, Santa
Kind of heartbreaking to see cases now getting out of control in Taiwan after they did such an incredible job from so early on - if other countries had responded so well, there might not have been a pandemic.
The evil motherfuckers in Beijing, meanwhile, are using the crisis to try to undermine Taiwan's government by spreading misinformation.
www.theguardian.com
The evil motherfuckers in Beijing, meanwhile, are using the crisis to try to undermine Taiwan's government by spreading misinformation.
Taiwan accuses China of spreading fake news about Covid outbreak
Beijing is using ‘cognitive warfare’ to undermine trust in the island’s government, says official
elbows
Well-Known Member
Yeah, the obvious problem with such approaches is that you need to maintain full vigilance for a very long time, and it only takes a few mistakes and some bad luck to see many gains lost. I still applaud such attempts, and the time they bought, but they can lead to temptation to relax prematurely, with disastrous results.
cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
Poor India, if they haven't suffered enough from covid, they now have a “black fungus” epidemic within the pandemic, cases are mainly linked to patients who had severe cases of Covid-19, because the steroids treatment compromises the immune system.
Some hospitals in Delhi are reporting as many as 15 to 20 new cases a day, compared to 1 or 2 a month normally, more than 7,200 people infected & 219 have died so far, and this has resulted in a lack of the drugs needed to treat it.
www.theguardian.com
And, if that's not enough, there's been a few cases of 'white fungus', which could be even worst.
www.independent.co.uk
Some hospitals in Delhi are reporting as many as 15 to 20 new cases a day, compared to 1 or 2 a month normally, more than 7,200 people infected & 219 have died so far, and this has resulted in a lack of the drugs needed to treat it.
‘Black fungus’ disease linked to Covid spreads across India
7,200 mucormycosis cases reported, usually in patients with diabetes or compromised immune systems
And, if that's not enough, there's been a few cases of 'white fungus', which could be even worst.
After spike in Covid-related black fungus in India, now ‘white fungus’ causes alarm
Also believed to be linked to Covid, doctors say ‘white fungus’ appears to be spreading faster to other organs than cases of ‘black fungus’
www.independent.co.uk
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
Dr John Campbell said it’s 20 cases detected a year in India normally. It’s arisen due to a combination of steroids and diabetes. Black fungus has a 50% mortality rate and requires very expensive drug treatment and disfiguring surgery.
when I say expensive, expensive for me @ $50 a dose every day for 8 weeks.
if that report on excess deaths is correct then all the deaths should be x 15! No wonder Modi has disappeared.
when I say expensive, expensive for me @ $50 a dose every day for 8 weeks.
if that report on excess deaths is correct then all the deaths should be x 15! No wonder Modi has disappeared.
elbows
Well-Known Member
If anyone was of the view that it was appropriate to exclude the possibility that the pandemic origins involved a lab accident, it might be time to reevaluate your stance:
news.yahoo.com
Wuhan lab staff sought hospital care before COVID-19 outbreak disclosed - WSJ
Three researchers from China's Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) sought hospital care in November 2019, a month before China reported the first cases of COVID-19, the Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday, citing a U.S. intelligence report. The Journal said current and former officials...
Supine
Newt Member
If anyone was of the view that it was appropriate to exclude the possibility that the pandemic origins involved a lab accident, it might be time to reevaluate your stance:
Wuhan lab staff sought hospital care before COVID-19 outbreak disclosed - WSJ
Three researchers from China's Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) sought hospital care in November 2019, a month before China reported the first cases of COVID-19, the Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday, citing a U.S. intelligence report. The Journal said current and former officials...
Three people were ill with something that could have been covid or “another common seasonal illness” isn’t exactly rock solid evidence of lab escape.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Hence my use of language. There is no conclusive proof available. There are just reasons to explore that possibility further and retain an open mind.
