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You’re assuming all other factors are the same... access to healthcare, accurate recording of cause of death, actually recording deaths etc.
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You’re assuming all other factors are the same... access to healthcare, accurate recording of cause of death, actually recording deaths etc.
Cid
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Er... the fact you’re making direct comparisons based on reported data.
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They do, and thanks for posting it. Crucially, they don’t just identify the obesity-death link by stacking obesity rates against death rates by country. They do it using an ANOVA approach (which I still have some technical quibbles over, but recognise these are unlikely in practice to matter), which basically asks things like “within a country, is there a difference in rate, and can we see this difference consistently across multiple countries?”
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Flavour
hang the bankers
Cases are on the rise all over Italy, I think it's a matter of weeks before another full lockdown unfortunately, though there's absolutely no appetite for it. Maybe it won't go back to like how it was in March 2020 but the entire country in "red zone" is a distinct possibility. Meanwhile the island of Sardinia is in "white zone" meaning life has essentially "returned to normal" (with masks obv)
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
spring-peeper
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Just a quick post, mainly because I'm annoyed.
Phoned my 87 y/o father who has Parkinston - he has no idea when he will be able to get the vaccine.
He says it doesn't bother him, but it bothers me.
Phoned my 87 y/o father who has Parkinston - he has no idea when he will be able to get the vaccine.
He says it doesn't bother him, but it bothers me.
Supine
Newt Member
If he is in the UK he should have had it a long time ago. Phone his doctor.
spring-peeper
Well-Known Member
He is not eligible - he can not get his shot until the government says he can.
I'm from Ontario, Quebec is starting over 65's -
Last time I checked (maybe a week), Canada ranks 43 globally wrt shots per capita.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Portugal
Today 22 deaths 642 new cases
Overall vaccine roll out slow, mainly due to production targets not being met in the EU procurement scheme. We still haven't completed the most vulnerable group. However, as the decline in cases, death, and hospitalisations continues, the President has just gone through the fortnightly short consultation meetings with all the parties represented in Parliament to hear their views and proposals before the State of Emergency is reviewed and renewed.
You can get a flavour of what the parties say by their short press releases and the mood is generally one of a cautious approach to de-escalating the present confinement regulations. Some debate about the R number ie is it .7 or.9, if it's the latter then it's rising with no confirmation at this stage by DSG (Health) and thank heavens we don't have the press and media pushing the boundaries about opening up etc. Looks likely that consideration will be given to schools opening, possibly child care and hairdressers in the first stage. Then non essential shops, bars and cafes etc. Some parties are arguing for a de-escalation by tiers (see map below where red = extreme high risk above 760m cases per 1000, orange= very high risk 480-960, yellow =high risk=240-480m, and white =moderate below 240 per 1000 )
The long term hope is that tourism in some form based on either proof of negative test or vaccine proof will begin May however at the moment there are no direct flights to the UK and the land borders are closed with Spain with the exception of those with work permits.
The UK variant is 65% of cases, there have been 3 reported cases of the Brazil one.
Today 22 deaths 642 new cases
Overall vaccine roll out slow, mainly due to production targets not being met in the EU procurement scheme. We still haven't completed the most vulnerable group. However, as the decline in cases, death, and hospitalisations continues, the President has just gone through the fortnightly short consultation meetings with all the parties represented in Parliament to hear their views and proposals before the State of Emergency is reviewed and renewed.
You can get a flavour of what the parties say by their short press releases and the mood is generally one of a cautious approach to de-escalating the present confinement regulations. Some debate about the R number ie is it .7 or.9, if it's the latter then it's rising with no confirmation at this stage by DSG (Health) and thank heavens we don't have the press and media pushing the boundaries about opening up etc. Looks likely that consideration will be given to schools opening, possibly child care and hairdressers in the first stage. Then non essential shops, bars and cafes etc. Some parties are arguing for a de-escalation by tiers (see map below where red = extreme high risk above 760m cases per 1000, orange= very high risk 480-960, yellow =high risk=240-480m, and white =moderate below 240 per 1000 )
The long term hope is that tourism in some form based on either proof of negative test or vaccine proof will begin May however at the moment there are no direct flights to the UK and the land borders are closed with Spain with the exception of those with work permits.
The UK variant is 65% of cases, there have been 3 reported cases of the Brazil one.
That does sound extremely late? My dad, age 79, has just had his first shot yesterday - this is in Germany, obviously way behind the UK in that respect, like 6 or 8 weeks later.
So no matter how much Canada is lagging behind on vaccinations, surely age 87 with Parkinsons he should be getting a date at least?
Eta: Yikes, just had a google and found this Toronto responds to criticism that it is falling behind other regions in vaccinating people over the age of 80.
Am I reading the article right in that from the 15th of this month general booking for the over 80s is opening? Apols if I am stating the obvious or misunderstanding something, but I would certainly also be concerned if my parent was in that situation. :/
spring-peeper
Well-Known Member
Nope, you seem to have the correct about your assumptions.
Actually, Toronto is much further ahead with their vaccinations. They get the lions share, then Ottawa, then slow trickles into the rural areas. Dad lives in Brockville, so he will get before us.
But, on the other hand, Toronto and area make up the bulk of cases.
Where I am, we have very little of the virus.
This is the cases for my area. I'm in North Glengarry.
You mention the slow vaccine roll out due to the EU supply problems what's your feel for take-up and has the Portuguese government made the same stupid mistake and pointlessly undermined confidence in the AZ jab as other EU governments have?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
There's no significant anti vax movement in Portugal and unlike France no history of anti vax. The government hasn't undermined confidence in the AZ vaccine and has now extended approval of the AZ vaccines for over 65s. In fact, if anything there has been a lot of lobbying around who, in addition to the elderly and health workers, is in the priority groups ( teachers and teaching assistants have just been included) and a couple of cases of public service officials being jumping the queue. Originally the military, firefighters, security services, and a handful of key political figures including cabinet ministers, public prosecutors and some lawmakers. were in the priority groups along with the over 80s and over-50s with pre-existing health conditions. . However, only 2.4m doses have arrived instead of 4.5m so 90% will go to the elderly and pre-existing cohorts. As production increases no doubt more vaccines will arrive but it means that unlike the UK the deconfinement process is not underpinned by mass vaccination.
The Portuguese Government which is the Socialist Party ( similar to Labour in the UK) is very much uncritical of the EU procurement issue mainly because its Portugals turn to chair the EU Council and there are no national elections on the horizon. The parties to the left , the PCP (Communist) and Left Block which do have seats in Parliament have however been extremely critical both in the Portuguese Parliament and the EU.
Thanks for that. All very interesting.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
No actual link found - purely precautionary but
www.theguardian.com
Several EU countries suspend AstraZeneca vaccine to investigate blood clot cases
European Medicines Agency say ‘benefits outweigh its risks’ and vaccine can continue to be used
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Supine
Newt Member
Several EU countries suspend AstraZeneca vaccine to investigate blood clot cases
European Medicines Agency say ‘benefits outweigh its risks’ and vaccine can continue to be used
I saw the EMA alert yesterday but didn't post because it might scare people needlessly
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Bloodclots from a simple immune response ?
What would the mechanism be ?
Especially after how many million doses ?
What would the mechanism be ?
Especially after how many million doses ?
Supine
Newt Member
If you jabb millions of old people you find some of them drop dead for a variety of reasons. None related to the jab. It's right to err on the side of caution so the batch is being investigated but this is normal practice for all medicines. Pharmacovigilence is a well established area of study for vaccines. Nothing to be worried about at this point.
2hats
Dust.
Far, far lower than the thrombosis rate due to COVID-19.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Indeed.
Is there anything that could fit in such a tiny vaccine dose of clear fluid that could actually cause a clot ?
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
The hysteria is apparently spreading
www.corriere.it
Lotti ritirati in Italia e Ue. L'Ema: «30 casi di trombosi su 5 mln». Rezza invia gli ispettori
In Italia l’Agenzia del farmaco ha vietato l’utilizzo di un lotto di vaccino AstraZeneca dopo che sono stati registrati «eventi avversi», dei quali non è ancora però accertato il legame con il vaccino. In altri Paesi d’Europa è stata decisa la sospensione, per un lotto diverso
2hats
Dust.
Whereas Spain reports no incidents.The hysteria is apparently spreading
Lotti ritirati in Italia e Ue. L'Ema: «30 casi di trombosi su 5 mln». Rezza invia gli ispettori
In Italia l’Agenzia del farmaco ha vietato l’utilizzo di un lotto di vaccino AstraZeneca dopo che sono stati registrati «eventi avversi», dei quali non è ancora però accertato il legame con il vaccino. In altri Paesi d’Europa è stata decisa la sospensione, per un lotto diverso
Spain to keep using AstraZeneca vaccine, no blood clot cases reported
Spain has registered no cases of blood clots related to AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine so far and will continue administering the shot, Health Minister Carolina Darias said on Thursday.
www.reuters.com
