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[Doodler]

What are staff supposed to do though when confronted with a shouty twat who is refusing because "rights" or some other shit?

Many staff won't know what to do because they're usually limited to refusing to serve someone who's being an arsehole or who's too young to buy certain goods. They have little or no authority, the way they're managed will remind them of that fact as a matter of course, and company policies discourage shop workers from confronting shoplifters and the like. It's a job for doormen and security guards.

 

[CNT36]

I hope not I'm mostly fine and my symptoms were pretty mild but I don't feel like my lungs are 100% back to normal tbh. Pretty anxious about flu season if I'm honest.

Hopefully they'll be better soon. I don't know how common it is tbh just worry about complacency in lower risk groups.

 

[zahir]

Quite likely but worth mentioning there have been some concerns about lungs being damaged in young and even asymptomatic cases for long periods after the virus is cleared.

Do you see damage to the lungs as something that may get better with time? I had a chest x-ray this morning and so I’m waiting to see what it shows.

 

[Supine]

Peer reviewed evidence that proves covid is transmitted by air. Aerosols can infect cells.

Aerosol and surface contamination of SARS-CoV-2 observed in quarantine and isolation care - Scientific Reports

The novel severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) originated in Wuhan, China in late 2019, and its resulting coronavirus disease, COVID-19, was declared a pandemic by the World Health Organization on March 11, 2020. The rapid global spread of COVID-19 represents perhaps the...

www.nature.com

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Do you see damage to the lungs as something that may get better with time? I had a chest x-ray this morning and so I’m waiting to see what it shows.

This study is smoking-related but it suggests that healthy cells can grow from lung stem cells to replace damaged ones.

New lung cells may replace tobacco-damaged cells after people stop smoking

There's also evidence that people's lungs can regenerate after damage from ARDS, which is one of the things Covid causes. As here:

Lung regeneration mechanism discovered

there are examples in humans that point to the existence of a robust system for lung regeneration. "Some survivors of acute respiratory distress syndrome, or ARDS, for example, are able to recover near-normal lung function following significant destruction of lung tissue."

Mice appear to share this capacity. Mice infected with the H1N1 influenza virus show progressive inflammation in the lung followed by outright loss of important lung cell types. Yet over several weeks, the lungs recover, revealing no signs of the previous lung injury.

 

[CNT36]

Do you see damage to the lungs as something that may get better with time? I had a chest x-ray this morning and so I’m waiting to see what it shows.

I'm not an expert but most likely it can however but as with some flu sometimes it may not. The problem is no one really knows the long term consequences as we haven't had that time.

 

[ice-is-forming]

My experience of covid in qld is so different from your experience in the uk, or else where really. We're just about to close the border with nsw again as their numbers are rising, and no one's been getting in from Victoria because they're numbers are high.

This happened yesterday and practically everyone in qld wants to lynch them! I know they did the wrong thing and are selfish idiots but it's just bringing out the absolute worst in people.

CHARGES LAID: Infected group facing FIVE years jail over COVID scandal

The actions of the trio sparked a criminal investigation.

7news.com.au

Things have become really state versus state, the country is divided, suspicious and hateful.

King McGowan breaks the internet

Mark McGowan is trending nationwide as Twitter users flood the platform with an outpouring of support for the WA Premier over his hard border stance.

www.perthnow.com.au

It just feels very surreal because so far in qld there's been 6 deaths. I know that covid is awful and we want to stop it spreading ( me more than most because boy 3 is immunocompromised) but that seems so unrealistic it's almost magical thinking. I'm not sure how to describe it really but there's a real disconnect. What's that word beginning with D that means a certain type of fucked up thinking?

Then today this weird thing happened. One of my sons called me from work to let me know that his work colleagues girlfriend, who is also the covid testing nurse at the local drive through testing station, had just tested positive.

She'd apparently had the test on Friday and instead of going into self quarantine to await the result had spent the weekend with the boyfriend. He'd been going into work ( where my son and by coincidence my colleagues son also works)

So cue the boyfriend going off to get tested, everyone getting sent home to wait on the results of the boyfriends test, plus the workplace shutting and a team of deep cleaners ready to go. So many people impacted and a real eye opener when you start to think about all the places you've been..( I've got the track and trace on my phone thank goodness)

My colleague told our boss and we were sent off to have the test, and as we work with very vulnerable people the safety plan was about to be initiated when...

A few hours later the girlfriend admitted that she'd lied about it, and didn't have covid.. all because they'd had a row!

It's just very weird but not in the same way you're experiencing it

 

[weltweit]

What a stupid thing to lie about.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

Indeed!

 

[William of Walworth]

What's that word beginning with D that means a certain type of fucked up thinking?

Disfunctional??

Or 'dozy'

 

[ice-is-forming]

Disfunctional??

Or 'dozy'

Good try but no tbh I can even think of what I was trying to think of now disconesense or something, but that's not even a word...

 

[kabbes]

Delusional

 

[8ball]

Good try but no tbh I can even think of what I was trying to think of now disconesense or something, but that's not even a word...

Dissonance?

 

[ice-is-forming]

Delusional

Kabbes! No, but it's a word that'd be used by a psych to say that someone has diswhatever of thought.

 

[two sheds]

discombobulated

 

[8ball]

Kabbes! No, but it's a word that'd be used by a psych to say that someone has diswhatever of thought.

Dissociation?

 

[ice-is-forming]

Dissonance?

Yes! Cognitive dissonance. Thank you

 

[Yossarian]

Disjointed?

 

[8ball]

Yes! Cognitive dissonance. Thank you

Do I get a prize?

 

[ice-is-forming]

Cognitive dissonance is that uncomfortable feeling you get when you try to maintain two or more inconsistent beliefs at the same time or when you believe one thing but act in a contradictory way.

This is what I'm seeing. It's getting weird. People are getting weird.

 

[ice-is-forming]

Do I get a prize?

Oh go on then... It's in the post

 

[two sheds]

Everybody has won, and all must have prizes

 

[ice-is-forming]

Everybody has won, and all must have prizes

Okay then, but only cos discombobulated is one of my favorite words sticks of rock with qld written through the middle in the post for everyone.

 

[a_chap]

 

[8ball]

The first post is pretty weird tbf.

 

[teqniq]

How Jared Kushner’s Secret Testing Plan “Went Poof Into Thin Air”

This spring, a team working under the president’s son-in-law produced a plan for an aggressive, coordinated national COVID-19 response that could have brought the pandemic under control. So why did the White House spike it in favor of a shambolic 50-state response?

www.vanityfair.com

This is absolutely damning:

 

[scifisam]

The first post is pretty weird tbf.

Why?

 

[frogwoman]

I thought the suburban dream thing was satire tbh

 

[William of Walworth]

Not too much about India and the pandemic in this thread, mostly because there's very little in the (Western) media generally about how the pandemic is happening in India

But this ultra-disturbing piece (well written though) about how badly the Indian poor have been treated, is disgusting

Modi's Covid-19 policies make clear that in India some lives matter more than others
Draconian government responses to the pandemic have merely served to widen India’s class, caste, gender and religious divides

Section of the article (by Jayati Ghosh) :
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The official attitude to the estimated 100 million or more rural-urban migrants who build India’s towns and cities and provide their services was even more telling.
Early into the lockdown, special repatriation flights were arranged for Indians stranded abroad.
But internal migrants got no such relief for two months; they were deprived of their right to livelihood but only – and rarely – received the most paltry compensation.
When, in desperation, they travelled on handcarts, containers and cement mixers or simply walked hundreds of kilometres to get home, they faced beatings, detention, being sprayed with disinfectant, even being killed on rail tracks where they slept thinking that no trains were allowed.
The arbitrary dusk-to-dawn nationwide curfews (with no public health rationale) forced them to walk in the blazing heat.
When special train services for such migrants were finally started, nearly two months into lockdown, impoverished workers had to congregate in stations in large numbers to get tickets, expose themselves to infection and then pay full fares.
Conditions on these trains were often so appalling, with delayed journeys in intense heat without food and water provision, that in just 10 days in May, 80 people died on board.
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[William of Walworth]

I was struggling to decide about which thread to post this link, as the article is a right mixture of insane conspiracy theories plus associated fake 'cures', , but this (from last Sunday's Observer) is regionally specific :

Tsunami of fake news hurts Latin America's effort to fight coronavirus

Extracts :

Many of the false claims include miracle Covid-19 cures including Peruvian sea water, Venezuelan lemongrass and elderberry tea and supernatural seeds being hawked by one Brazilian televangelist.

In Bolivia, politicians have been promoting the use of a toxic bleaching agent as a potential cure – with panicked residents in the hard-hit city of Cochabamba reportedly lining up to buy the poisonous product.

The misguided belief that 5G telecom towers spread the coronavirus via radio waves prompted villagers in Huancavelica in the Peruvian Andes to detain eight telecoms engineers for more than a day. Ginger consumption in Peru has rocketed and exports nearly tripled because of the belief it can treat or cure Covid-19. At least 10 cases of chlorine dioxide poisoning have been reported in Bolivia in recent days.

In Chiapas – where WhatsApp rumours have spread claiming government health workers were deliberately spraying indigenous communities with the coronavirus – there has been violence. An angry mob reportedly ransacked the community hospital in the municipality of Los Rosas in early June before torching an ambulance, the town hall and the mayor’s home.

Possibly (?) not quite as bad as conditions in India, but the same emoticons apply :