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elbows
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Some really good news from Spain if the worldmeters site is accurate. Seems like yesterday almost 2000 people came back to life!
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Its not just the worldometer site. I've been collecting certain data from Spains official daily update for months, and I didnt enter yesterdays numbers because they went down instead of up and I didnt have time to search for the official explanation.
elbows
Well-Known Member
If there was one piece of data I could choose to have access to for the UK in a timely, localised fashion now, it would quite possibly be that sort of sewage sludge data.
Reading the paper I see that their sewage data was only 3 days ahead of hospital admissions, but thats still much better than nothing.
Reading the paper I see that their sewage data was only 3 days ahead of hospital admissions, but thats still much better than nothing.
elbows
Well-Known Member
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
This is depressing as fuck 
www.theguardian.com
Colombian designers prepare cardboard hospital beds that double as coffins
As coronavirus cases soar in Latin America, doctors say unorthodox idea may be necessary
This is depressing as fuck
Colombian designers prepare cardboard hospital beds that double as coffins
As coronavirus cases soar in Latin America, doctors say unorthodox idea may be necessary
I saw that, grim.
I wonder if you get to keep it if you pull through? Would save on expensive funeral costs later down the line. Every cloud.
Yu_Gi_Oh
天天好心情
They've closed some of the schools in Seoul again today. Poor South Korea. They'd had a really good run before this. I think in countries like South Korea, where the virus is suppressed, there will still be little outbreaks like this for quite some time. Same here in China. We've got to learn to live like this I guess.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Sk are doing well and didn't need a lockdown but the last conversation I had with my friend everyone was getting fed up with the 2 metre thing and were anxious to return to sine sort of normality, they've had social distancing in place before almost everyone else too
elbows
Well-Known Member
I was so nervous about that stuff that for a long time I refused to give much credit and cheer to nations that had done well in the early days. Eventually I relented and gave credit where it was due, but that doesnt mean I'm any less nervous about their futures, or any more complacent about the challenges they face.
Eventually the UK will be in a somewhat similar position too (albeit presumably with a much higher proportion of health & care staff having already had the disease), which is why I keep going on about the future being lots of local stories of outbreaks in many ways, wth full nationwide lockdown just there in the background as a last resort if we completely lose control again.
Eventually the UK will be in a somewhat similar position too (albeit presumably with a much higher proportion of health & care staff having already had the disease), which is why I keep going on about the future being lots of local stories of outbreaks in many ways, wth full nationwide lockdown just there in the background as a last resort if we completely lose control again.
not-bono-ever
meh
Coronavirus: Monkeys 'escape with COVID-19 samples' after attacking lab assistant
One of the primates was reportedly later spotted up in a tree, chewing one of the sample collection kits.
there is something familiar about this...
miss direct
misfungled
Here in Turkey things are getting weird. Mosques reopened today so there's been gathering there (with some restrictions, but still...) As of midnight there's another weekend curfew (uffffffffff) but as of Monday, everything will be open again, apart from bars and nargile cafes (that's convenient!)
Yu_Gi_Oh
天天好心情
I think credit and cheer is still deserved by countries that have suppressed the virus to the point where they can count the cases and track them. I really hope that eventually the UK is in a similar position.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Further deflation of the restrictions come into play next week with the exception of Lisbon where 80 percent of new cases are coming from. Restaurants / bars can exceed 50% capacity if they have tables socially distanced and screens between tables, theatres cinemas can open with masks and socially distanced seating , maximum groups up from 10 - 20 , decision to open or close larger shops over 400m square delegates to local councils and a warning that although beaches open next week they’ll be closed if social distancing and occupancy rates are not adhered to. Border between Portugal and Spain open but on designated days . Next overall review every three weeks but Lisbon reviewed weekly .
The Octagon
Stop...Hammertime
Coronavirus: Monkeys 'escape with COVID-19 samples' after attacking lab assistant
One of the primates was reportedly later spotted up in a tree, chewing one of the sample collection kits.news.sky.com
there is something familiar about this...
Man, 2020 is a wild ride
ice-is-forming
I was born naked, shameless & fucking outrageous..
Our premier has been staunch, in the face of bullying, and has refused to open Qld boarders yet. Not until other states get their numbers down. This has pissed a lot of people off because they like traveling to Qld ( the sunshine state) in winter. Plus our biggest income is from tourism.
But they've started a huge campaign about 'holidaying in your home state', only until now you could only travel 150k, and this wasn't going to be changed to 250k until June 14th.
But today it was announced that the schedules been changed so that from tomorrow Queenslanders can travel anywhere within Qld
which means I can go and see boy 3 and the grandbaby
I personally think that this is a good compromise, between health and economy.
But they've started a huge campaign about 'holidaying in your home state', only until now you could only travel 150k, and this wasn't going to be changed to 250k until June 14th.
But today it was announced that the schedules been changed so that from tomorrow Queenslanders can travel anywhere within Qld
which means I can go and see boy 3 and the grandbaby I personally think that this is a good compromise, between health and economy.
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Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Interesting article, which makes this virus all the more frightening given that it’s not just the elderly or medically vulnerable that are at risk:
elemental.medium.com
Coronavirus May Be a Blood Vessel Disease, Which Explains Everything
Many of the infection’s bizarre symptoms have one thing in common
elemental.medium.com
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
Considering how many people are out on the streets in close contact with each other in the US right now, I'm anticipating a massive jump in their figures over the next couple of weeks.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
New coronavirus losing potency, top Italian doctor says is there any truth to this?
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Well, we can live in hope.
Yu_Gi_Oh
天天好心情
They've said similar here about the strain in the northeast that caused a mini-outbreak. They said it's distinct from the Wuhan strain, and people's symptoms were comparatively mild. I'd like to believe it, but I have lost a lot of faith in good news these last few months.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Mumbai: How Covid-19 has ravaged India's richest city
With nearly 30,000 cases, Mumbai accounts for more than a fifth of India's coronavirus infections.
www.bbc.co.uk
I would love to believe this, too. But while it's just one article quoting one doctor, I remain sceptical. Also, wouldn't a question be if the virus necessarily would behave that way everywhere? (Genuine question, I have no idea myself.). And if it's only doing this after first ravaging a large part of the population...mind you, we are very much at that point in the UK, so one can dream...
2hats
Dust.
There is no peer reviewed research to verify this hypothesis - there's a clue in the article: "pending scientific evidence to support the thesis".
elbows
Well-Known Member
Other clues are to be found in additional quotes from that doctor:
Not a good look! Although I do understand where they are coming from when they in terms of alarmism about the prospects of the second wave. My own stance is that I have no bloody clue, and my instincts are conflicted. I do not like assumptions about the timing and inevitability of a second wave. But neither am I confident such a scenario will be avoided. And I do expect some future twists to the tale. A lot of these feelings cancel eachother out and I am left with a rather blank sense of what to expect in the future. Its one of the reasons I am about to take a holiday from discussing the pandemic, I will exhust myself with these conflicting feelings, I will go round in circles for who knows how long.
There are also a whole bunch of very different things that can feed into the perception about the current 'potency' of this virus. Has the nature of the virus itself actually changed in some way? Or is there a big difference in the sorts of people who are getting infected with it now, compared to earlier on? eg, to give a very crude example, have the most vulnerable and exposed already been killed off?
There have been jokes in recent months about how we have all become armchair epidemiologists. Well I am a long way away from having the full spectrum of knowledge that epidemiologists have, and some of that missing detail might be very important for understanding the chances of and timing of subsequent waves. I will try to learn a few more things this month to see if it helps, but I fear I'll still mostly be stuck in a waiting game that will sap my energy if I let it.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Doodler
You're quite nice when you smile
Sense of entitlement plus an unexamined wellspring of contempt which snobbish women in particular sometimes unleash on low-ranking male workers. In the US this is the hallmark of the Karen, in the UK it's sometimes accompanied by a distinctive barking tone of voice reserved for the lower orders.
