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So in France, after just over a week of semi lockdown, (allowed out for essential work, visit sick relatives, food shopping, exercise), the feeling is that it is still not enough for containment. Macron is making a statement at 8 tonight, with tighter restrictions and heavier fines expected. For exercise, you can have 1 hour within 1KM of your house. It's thought you will now need to include the time you left your house on the form now. Also if your work is essential, it needs another form from your boss stating this, and this needs to be renewed daily.
 
Somewhere, it may have been on here, I saw a chart of infections stemming from one person and multiplying out into a great pyramid of infections.

It showed graphically how many infections one could save by just preventing infection from just one person.

Did anyone else see that and can point me to it?
 
Lucy Fur said:
So in France, after just over a week of semi lockdown, (allowed out for essential work, visit sick relatives, food shopping, exercise), the feeling is that it is still not enough for containment. Macron is making a statement at 8 tonight, with tighter restrictions and heavier fines expected. For exercise, you can have 1 hour within 1KM of your house. It's thought you will now need to include the time you left your house on the form now. Also if your work is essential, it needs another form from your boss stating this, and this needs to be renewed daily.
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I think this is coming for the UK. At the moment because of unclear communications thousands of companies are still working and their staff are still taking risks with either being infected or infecting others.

Pathways of infection will continue while people are still going to work, and I would doubt more than 30-40% of employees can work at home.

I expect the UK to say only those in essential occupations are to go to work - quite soon.
 
Maltin said:
That 233 figure was from 2 days ago (now 3). Not sure if mentioned elsewhere here but interesting to me that 2 days later, deaths in Italy had increased to 463 (631 after 3 days), a 99% increase. The number of deaths in the UK yesterday was 335, a 44% increase. The number of deaths is still worrying and will increase but hopefully some hope that the UK growth rate is currently a lot lower. The number of deaths in the UK in the last 3 days has been fairly stable around 50 per day. Will be interesting to see whether that trend continues when the updated numbers are published later today or we see the large increase in numbers seen in Italy and Spain.
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87 more deaths reported in the UK bringing total to 422. Not as large an increase as seen in Spain or Italy but still concerning (81% increase over the last 3 days compared to 171% in Italy from when they were at 233 deaths).
 
weltweit said:
I think this is coming for the UK. At the moment because of unclear communications thousands of companies are still working and their staff are still taking risks with either being infected or infecting others.

Pathways of infection will continue while people are still going to work, and I would doubt more than 30-40% of employees can work at home.

I expect the UK to say only those in essential occupations are to go to work - quite soon.
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Absolutely agree, the government must come down and explicitly define 'essential' . The current guidelines are woefully vague.
 
weltweit said:
Somewhere, it may have been on here, I saw a chart of infections stemming from one person and multiplying out into a great pyramid of infections.

It showed graphically how many infections one could save by just preventing infection from just one person.

Did anyone else see that and can point me to it?
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This?

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oh shit yer.... Covid-19 was detected in Syria, Gaza and Afghanistan over the weekend. Now in the current climate where America are increasing sanction on Iran...this is going to be a horror show.

In Gaza, the first two coronavirus cases were announced Saturday. Authorities have shut down restaurants and cafes and suspended Friday prayers as residents fear an outbreak will further cripple a health system already suffering from Israel’s blockade, which causes constant shortages of medicine and poor sanitation services. With a population of over 1.8 million people, the besieged Gaza Strip is also one of the most densely populated places on Earth and has often been called an “open-air prison.”


Meanwhile, shelter-in-place orders were announced in the occupied West Bank, where around 60 cases have been reported.


On Sunday, Syria announced its first confirmed case of COVID-19 as humanitarian groups warn of the catastrophic effects the disease will have in the war-torn country.


In Afghanistan, a health official confirmed the country’s first coronavirus-related death Sunday.

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RTWL said:
oh shit yer.... Covid-19 was detected in Syria, Gaza and Afghanistan over the weekend. Now in the current climate where America are increasing sanction on Iran...this is going to be a horror show.
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For all the talk of "second wave" of this virus and what happened in 1918-19, its somewhere like Gaza - with a younger population that is already pretty cordoned off from the outside world but is living in really close proximity to each other - that is the perfect place for this virus to mutate to a much more deadly form.

They really have to be helped now or this time is going to be one that is looked back fondly upon in a few years.
 
agricola said:
For all the talk of "second wave" of this virus and what happened in 1918-19, its somewhere like Gaza - with a younger population that is already pretty cordoned off from the outside world but is living in really close proximity to each other - that is the perfect place for this virus to mutate to a much more deadly form.

They really have to be helped now or this time is going to be one that is looked back fondly upon in a few years.
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Israel will continue to block medical aid .
 
António Guterres is calling for a cease fire(global). I will eat my own feet if that happens.
 
An Israeli rights group said late Monday that the spread of the novel coronavirus in Gaza would be a “massive disaster” due to the blockade imposed by Israel.

The healthcare system in the Gaza Strip was already on the brink of collapse even before receiving its first coronavirus patient.
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www.aa.com.tr

Israeli group warns of disaster in Gaza from COVID-19

B’Tselem says Israel has paralyzed healthcare system in Gaza and is responsible for health of its two million inhabitants - Anadolu Ajansı
www.aa.com.tr www.aa.com.tr
 
I am hearing that India is instituting some kind of lockdown, with only 10 notified deaths so far they obviously see the potential of the virus and want to act promptly. Hopefully they can starve the virus of hosts, it will be interesting to see, hope they succeed.
 
India right now is people panicking running to try to buy food because the pm did not say anything in that speech about essentials still being available during this 21 day lockdown.
One year imprisonment for not complying.
It’s going to be impossible. Huge proportion of people are day labourers . No mention of how they are supposed to eat.
They have right now a real fascist government with big para military wing and their own agenda. Terrifying tbh.
 
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