little_legs
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So the longer the rest of the states don't shut shit down, what are you going to compare the US with then? the rest of the world?
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little_legs
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This is scary but they not fucking around in Italy
elbows
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Its not just New York either.
On a national level, they are currently fucking around with social distancing measures for a ludicrous 15 days, and Trump has already started making stupid noises about what decision he would prefer to make at the end of that period.
www.reuters.com
On a national level, they are currently fucking around with social distancing measures for a ludicrous 15 days, and Trump has already started making stupid noises about what decision he would prefer to make at the end of that period.
Trump suggests he may scale back closures soon despite worsening coronavirus outbreak
President Donald Trump said on Monday he is considering how to reopen the U.S. economy when a 15-day shutdown ends next week, even as the highly contagious coronavirus is spreading rapidly and hospitals are bracing for a wave of virus-related deaths.
www.reuters.com
little_legs
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Lots of folks living in the US expect to be told go back to work soon. It's shit when you have a president who thinks one million deaths is just a million job openings.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
With the Italian infection rate now surpassing one-in-a-thousand, however irrational and arbitrary, it does feel somewhat like the Rubicon has been crossed.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I'm not saying what Trump is doing is ok. It's absolutely not, but the US is a bit different in terms of state responsibility vs Federal responsibility. Luckily!
You are right, though. The US is on course to becoming the world leader in CV infection.
little_legs
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having studied in the US, I am fully aware of this, but I appreciate you trying to educate us
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I stand by my point about comparisons between countries. It can be not so illuminating when you don't compare like with like.
Grace Johnson
i like dairylea dunkers
Tbf, the police could have had reports about that particular man and were responding like that for their own safety. Something like a violent domestic incident that ended with him storming of and making threats would end in a situation like that as sometimes would here quarantine or not.
clicker
nanook rubs it....
But a lot of people are sick with it, not all recovered or dead. Isn't the percentage calculated on those infected?
elbows
Well-Known Member
Those percentages dont mean very much anyway, not when the systems in those countries are so busy they are not testing mild cases. Even when you try to test all mild cases the data oten still ends up not telling the whole story properly, so when you arent even trying its likely to be way off. Need proper blood tests for signs of past infection to eventually find out the true scale of infections and thus a more accurate fatality rate.
ska invita
back on the other side
Who will be doing the admiring?
Also from what I can tell it's a false premise. Hong Kong, such a densely populated city, has kept it under control because people are well self disciplined in social distancing.... Lessons learned from previous experience. Hopefully we'll learn that behaviour too.
I don't think technocraticism is anything to do with it... Individual-collective responsibility is key I think
elbows
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I was talking on another thread today about not getting carried away with the picture so far in countries like Singapore, things can still deteriorate there. And the same applies to Hong Kong, be careful not to get stuck with an out of date picture about whats going on in some of those places!
Hong Kong will close borders to visitors as it steps up coronavirus fight
City reports another alarming surge on Monday – 39 more patients confirmed as having Covid-19, most of them with a recent travel history.
www.scmp.com
Doodler
You're quite nice when you smile
Those among their own populations with a nationalistic outlook. Ambitious people elsewhere who want to influence how their countries are run.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Deffo this ^
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Not sure google translate does this full justice
“Porto: through military personnel from the Lever Territorial Post, the GNR detained a 40-year-old woman in flagrante delicto for the crime of disobedience to the fulfillment of the prophylactic isolation period COVID-19, in the municipality of Vila Nova de Gaia. The detainee, with no criminal record, was constituted accused and subject to the Identity and Residence Term, with an obligation to remain at home.”
“Porto: through military personnel from the Lever Territorial Post, the GNR detained a 40-year-old woman in flagrante delicto for the crime of disobedience to the fulfillment of the prophylactic isolation period COVID-19, in the municipality of Vila Nova de Gaia. The detainee, with no criminal record, was constituted accused and subject to the Identity and Residence Term, with an obligation to remain at home.”
Yeah, and Macron seized 130,000 masks heading to U.K. hospitals.
The EU is completely irrelevant, every member country is fending for themselves now.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Got a link to a reliable source to confirm that?
Doodler
You're quite nice when you smile
You may well be right. But all Taiwan, China, South Korea etc need do is be seen to make a better job of it than the USA.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
I’d say so but I’d say it’s a verboten source for here, so - no linky I’m afraid
So, bollocks.
ice-is-forming
I was born naked, shameless & fucking outrageous..
The big thing South Korea have done with contact tracing is make everything public. e.g. Mr X, a 42 year old 5'10" tall man from Busan has tested positive, he sat in seat 4A in this cinema at 14:30 and then was caught on CCTV sneezing on the way out, just before he used his credit card to buy a can of coke from the kiosk opposite the cinema: South Korea is reporting intimate details of COVID-19 cases: has it helped?
Contrast that with here, where we had that super-spreader from the ski resort and PHE were appealing for people who came into contact with him to come forward, despite refusing to reveal any details about him.
My friends son in law went back to South Korea as his visa expired two weeks ago. This is a message from him.
Hi mum, there are so many things we're doing now! First of all everyone's wearing mask. If you're not wearing, people would think you're crazy or you're not educated. And psychologically people are not paniced.
We don't have any banning or new law or rules that we can't do something so it's just normal life for us. And economy is still fine and running. It's just find and normal. Just we have to wear a mask and need to concider before we go somewhere. That's it at the moment.
Also We trust our goverment, everyone follow them and everyone work hard to overcome the virus together. That's becasue our healthy care system is quick and accurate.
Everyone can get the virus test for free and can get the result the next day morning. The cost of getting rid of the virus is free, even if you are a foreigner. And it's fast.
And we get emergency warning alarm on our phone if we go somewhere. If someone with corona virus has been some area and if im near there i get really loud warning on my phone. And you can see everyone who has a corona virus on the website. They show you where they have been while they had the virus with dates.
If you have been there that time everyone goes to get the test, even if you don't want to goverment find the people who have been the same place with who has coronavirus and you have to have the test.
There are so many things but i would say the most important thing is people's mind and our process of medical system. We think we can overcome and it's nearly finished. We are still really careful but we're not afraid of the virus.
So that's why everyone's wearing a mask, wash our hand often, avoid crowd. I don't know if you could understand it but if you couldn't understand some part or want to know more i love to talk about it more! and if you search about it internet. There are so many video on youtube or article about korea.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
The 233 number for Italy and UK finally lifted from Urban and stuck on the news
ice-is-forming
I was born naked, shameless & fucking outrageous..
in Australia
66 billion package by federal govt announced. (2nd package so far)
Aim of package. To cushion the blow for Australians. Try and keep economy functioning and for the people.
Grants of 100,000 for small and medium business, to stay in business. Sole trader or casual fall by 20 % can get early access to super. All small business will receive 20,000, larger SME 100,000.
Unsecured loans available, up to 250,000. (Insolvency where there is debt owed increased from 2000 to 20,000, period of time increased from 21 days to 6 months?) (I think)
NFPs will be able to access this 100,000.
Cushion blow to households
Increasing safety nets, Newstart doubled. Assets tests waived. 550 a fortnight, extra.(double jobseeker allowance)
July 13, 5. 2 million.
Super can be accessed, capped at 10,000 this financial year as well as next, tax exempt.
Retirees flexibility, 4% current,y in drawing down will be halved to 2 %
Aimed at front line. For those who will feel first blows. Aimed for next 6 months. Not quick fix. Steel our selves for at least the next 6 months.
Combined package so far is a total 10 per cent of our economy, GDP.(189 billion in total so far)
*Social distancing - keep away from each other at least 1.5 metres for the numpties up the back.
*All non essential travel across the country advised against, cancelled (impacts for Easter holidays)(Regional lock down basically)
*Stronger measures coming for communities with outbreaks (individualised to the community effected)
*State and federal working strongly together on this.Therefore this is an apolitical post in that vein.
66 billion package by federal govt announced. (2nd package so far)
Aim of package. To cushion the blow for Australians. Try and keep economy functioning and for the people.
Grants of 100,000 for small and medium business, to stay in business. Sole trader or casual fall by 20 % can get early access to super. All small business will receive 20,000, larger SME 100,000.
Unsecured loans available, up to 250,000. (Insolvency where there is debt owed increased from 2000 to 20,000, period of time increased from 21 days to 6 months?) (I think)
NFPs will be able to access this 100,000.
Cushion blow to households
Increasing safety nets, Newstart doubled. Assets tests waived. 550 a fortnight, extra.(double jobseeker allowance)
July 13, 5. 2 million.
Super can be accessed, capped at 10,000 this financial year as well as next, tax exempt.
Retirees flexibility, 4% current,y in drawing down will be halved to 2 %
Aimed at front line. For those who will feel first blows. Aimed for next 6 months. Not quick fix. Steel our selves for at least the next 6 months.
Combined package so far is a total 10 per cent of our economy, GDP.(189 billion in total so far)
*Social distancing - keep away from each other at least 1.5 metres for the numpties up the back.
*All non essential travel across the country advised against, cancelled (impacts for Easter holidays)(Regional lock down basically)
*Stronger measures coming for communities with outbreaks (individualised to the community effected)
*State and federal working strongly together on this.Therefore this is an apolitical post in that vein.
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It's from the Sun. And it's only the headline. The trucks were allowed to continue on their journey with their cargo intact. No supplies were taken.
elbows
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Well its not like we were the only ones making the claim! But yeah its one less thing for me to have to go on about now.
Someone on the BBC got carried away a short time ago and said 1-2 weeks behind Italy. No, we arent 1 week behind, 2 weeks remains the appropriate approximation. But that could change, and as things get far more serious here the comparison may start to serve less purpose anyway, it wont be necessary.
Sir Belchalot
arenicola marina
True as it's filmed in Brazil:
Video shows man forcibly arrested during lockdown in Italy? Fact Check - ThatsNonsense.com
A video is spreading that purports to show Italian police arresting a man with a “leg...
www.thatsnonsense.com
little_legs
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I stand corrected.True as it's filmed in Brazil:
Video shows man forcibly arrested during lockdown in Italy? Fact Check - ThatsNonsense.com
A video is spreading that purports to show Italian police arresting a man with a “leg...
