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Whereabouts are you 39th step?

Gather there is a lot of inward migration to alentajo cos its under populated and didn't have any cases a few days ago, now its got a few and regional (CP) govt stressed. Borders locked down but hard to control internal movement
 
The IOC has finally come out to say they are considering putting off the Olympics 2020.

They will wake-up soon to the fact that if they go ahead, most countries will not be turning up anyway.
 
So this drug Chloroquine Trump mentioned is apparently going to be used first in New York after governor Cuomo gave it the go ahead.

Be interesting to see how successful it is.
 
I've been doing this for 9 days already most Poles are.

People need to to get it in their heads that you DON'T MEET ANYONE.
Most people in Ireland are living like this the past week or more too - and cases still rising steadily.
I fear England is going to see a spiralling of infections shortly. It's in each person's own interest and health to be as cautious as possible.
 
So this drug Chloroquine Trump mentioned is apparently going to be used first in New York after governor Cuomo gave it the go ahead.

Be interesting to see how successful it is.



They need to be very careful. Following Trump ‘s lie about chloroquine being approved by the FDA a few days ago people have become terribly ill. It’s very easy to overdose on chloroquine.



 
Most people in Ireland are living like this the past week or more too - and cases still rising steadily.
I fear England is going to see a spiralling of infections shortly. It's in each person's own interest and health to be as cautious as possible.

Mate I'm so pissed off.

I found out a couple of days ago that somone at my husband's work went off sick with a fever, then came in 2 days later when he felt better, then went sick again.

The guy has a second job in a bar so meets many people.

At that stage I had sitting at home fof a week. Half way through my self quarrentine - just in case.

Now I have to start aaall over again cuz of the Douchebag.

My husband is working from home now. 9 days is fucking boring and I would have been excited to go out for a walk on Friday but now I've got to wait two weeks again.. Just in case.

Sitting on your arse wondering if you're gonna get sick, or if you've spread it to somone is not fun.

Only if you have a fucking conscience I guess.
 
Mate I'm so pissed off.

I found out a couple of days ago that somone at my husband's work went off sick with a fever, then came in 2 days later when he felt better, then went sick again.

The guy has a second job in a bar so meets many people.

At that stage I had sitting at home fof a week. Half way through my self quarrentine - just in case.

Now I have to start aaall over again cuz of the Douchebag.

My husband is working from home now. 9 days is fucking boring and I would have been excited to go out for a walk on Friday but now I've got to wait two weeks again.. Just in case.

Sitting on your arse wondering if you're gonna get sick, or if you've spread it to somone is not fun.

Only if you have a fucking conscience I guess.
That's terrible news. People here are still going out for walks and exercise, just keeping the two metre distance and limiting time in people's company.
Confined to house only when experiencing symptoms and awaiting test.
 
Another 3d printing story. Looks like they're using the snorkeling mask from decathlon, it requires a ventilator but still could be helpful. If that works, I would expect lots of snorkeling masks knocking around since no one is going on holiday.


I just heard on the radio that the company that originally made the valves and charged $11,000 a piece for them threatened to sue the bloke who was 3d printing them for $1

Despicable wankers
 
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There are lots of factors skewing the numbers we are reading in the papers. Numbers of deaths are not very indicative unless you also know the total number of cases. And most countries don't know that, because they have lots of cases which don't get counted. Many of the people in ICUs will have a delayed death after spending a week or two on a ventilator. Before that happens, they're counted as living. This is why the number of deaths in Italy spiked - they had a backlog of living people who nothing could be done for. Italy's death numbers look especially bad because a Covid 19 patient with multiple conditions is counted as having died of Covid 19. Some other countries do it differently. Italy's numbers are also skewed by them having the second oldest population. So we probably won't have an accurate picture of current mortality rates for several months. Another thing which makes international comparisons difficult is the split between patients who are treated at home vs hospital. Then there's air pollution, and the proportion of patients who smoke. The most useful numbers we're getting are from Italy. The average age of people who've died there is 79. 99% of the dead had one other condition, 48% had 3 conditions or more. Italy's coronavirus deaths surge by 627 in a day, elderly at high risk So it's pretty clear who needs to worry and who doesn't. Bear that in mind when the papers have yet another headline with DEATHS in it. They'll keep doing it every day for the rest of the year. But most of us don't need to read those stories. All we have to do is stop worrying, avoid spreading the virus and help the few who are high risk.
 
Question: I still can’t believe Japan’s numbers. High population density, small spaces everyone is crammed into, most of the working population using public transport, and aging population, and yet they’ve taken barely any precautions and done little testing so it seems impossible that everything can just be OK over there.
Anybody got any ideas/information?
 
There are lots of factors skewing the numbers we are reading in the papers. Numbers of deaths are not very indicative unless you also know the total number of cases. And most countries don't know that, because they have lots of cases which don't get counted. Many of the people in ICUs will have a delayed death after spending a week or two on a ventilator. Before that happens, they're counted as living. This is why the number of deaths in Italy spiked - they had a backlog of living people who nothing could be done for. Italy's death numbers look especially bad because a Covid 19 patient with multiple conditions is counted as having died of Covid 19. Some other countries do it differently. Italy's numbers are also skewed by them having the second oldest population. So we probably won't have an accurate picture of current mortality rates for several months. Another thing which makes international comparisons difficult is the split between patients who are treated at home vs hospital. Then there's air pollution, and the proportion of patients who smoke. The most useful numbers we're getting are from Italy. The average age of people who've died there is 79. 99% of the dead had one other condition, 48% had 3 conditions or more. Italy's coronavirus deaths surge by 627 in a day, elderly at high risk So it's pretty clear who needs to worry and who doesn't. Bear that in mind when the papers have yet another headline with DEATHS in it. They'll keep doing it every day for the rest of the year. But most of us don't need to read those stories. All we have to do is stop worrying, avoid spreading the virus and help the few who are high risk.

Survey of Italian cases, for anyone who's interested.

 
Whereabouts are you 39th step?

Gather there is a lot of inward migration to alentajo cos its under populated and didn't have any cases a few days ago, now its got a few and regional (CP) govt stressed. Borders locked down but hard to control internal movement
Where do yu read that out of interest? Im in central Algarve near Paderne. I'll pm you the location


Population in the Algarve isnt a lot to be honest , in the tourist months it must multiply by at least five times.. With the tourist industry effectively finished any workers from outside the area will be off I imagine tbh. Theres a lot of people in the Algarve with families in Alentejo , historically people moved from what was the farming/wine/wheat areas of Alentejo to the Algarve to work in tourism, contruction, transport , garden/pools etc. Alentejo is quite sparse , fantastic food and scenery and yup its the CPs base area now. The Council next to me Loule is CP.,here is all PSP , some CP and BE support. Many of the initial cases were from abroad but obviously it depends on who has been infected since.

Nationally 1,,600 cases diagnosed , most of these are in the North , 47 in intensive care, 166 dead. Apparantly they are doing a trial with a malaria drug .
 
They need to be very careful. Following Trump ‘s lie about chloroquine being approved by the FDA a few days ago people have become terribly ill. It’s very easy to overdose on chloroquine.




There people go again - criticizing anything Trump says just because it's Trump :rolleyes:

and likely to be batshit insane
 

Yeah. Real conclusive answers will mostly come with the benefit of hindsight.

Certainly when reading an article like that, that describes measures they took as tame compared to what others have done, I note a lack of attention to when the measures were taken, not just how strong they were. Timing is key to the extent to which certain measures have an impact.

Infection control protocols, protective equipment etc in hospitals could also make a real difference, especially when it comes to numbers of deaths in the early stages. If aspects of the Japanese system and society mean that especially vulnerable people are more likely to be shielded, then the difference, especially in the early stages, might be pronounced. Institutional spread is likely to be a big part of the story with this pandemic. We arent really seeing the full story unfold in various countries if we just look at the numbers of deaths, such things are a very narrow glimpse at the picture. If we knew about all the notable clusters and suspected hospital, care home etc outbreaks then we might be left with a different impression about the deadly side of this pandemic. And so the opposite is also true, in a country with a notably low number of deaths, it might be a story of these institutional outbreaks not happening (or at least not happening much). Not that such states of affairs in countries can be assumed to continue, some countries that are currently seen as success stories in this pandemic still have many moments ahead where all their good work can come undone.

Having followed the Fukushima disaster fairly closely, I wont take their numbers at face value, but then for various reasons there are lots of numbers from lots of countries that I wouldnt think show the true picture right now either. I doubt such dodgy data reasons are the only reason the Japanese numbers have been this way so far though.
 
Anybody got any ideas/information?

Without speculating too much, lack of testing seems to be a factor. Also, with increased hand washing, cases of normal flu are down compared to the last few years. I was in the hospital for a scheduled appointment, and for some reason it was almost empty. Strange, as the waiting are is normally packed with elderly people.
I don`t know about Tokyo, but there is no social distancing happening in western Japan. Schools are still closed, but the kids and parents are going to amusement parks, cherry blossom viewing, and enjoying the nice weather in general.
There are still no masks or hand sanitizer readily available.
 
We won't get definitive answers until we're past caring! Honestly, I couldn't care less. We should be thinking about how to get food to people who are stuck.
 
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