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[Yu_Gi_Oh]

We won't get definitive answers until we're past caring! Honestly, I couldn't care less. We should be thinking about how to get food to people who are stuck.

Right, but if we knew we'd had it, we could be more useful in doing exactly these kinds of activities without worrying about infecting people.

I do agree that on the list of urgent things that need to happen right now, it's not at the top though. x

 

[MissActualKitty]

Utter nonsense.

how many deaths have there been of fit young healthy people with no underlying conditions then? Please provide the data - Thanks!

 

[MissActualKitty]

Reported this post for inaccurate medical info that risks lives, and you more generally for total bollocks postings in inappropriate threads. This is for worldwide breaking news, not personal drivel. Fuck off away from here with your stupid posts.
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Put on your big pants love.

 

[kabbes]

how many deaths have there been of fit young healthy people with no underlying conditions then? Please provide the data - Thanks!

New analysis breaks down age-group risk for coronavirus — and shows millennials are not invincible

The data show that of people ages 20-44 who are infected with #coronavirus, up to one-fifth have been hospitalized, including 2%-4% who required ICU treatment.

www.statnews.com

“Millennials are not invincible. The new data show that up to one-fifth of infected people ages 20-44 have been hospitalized, including 2%-4% who required treatment in an intensive care unit.”

If you follow the link in that quote, you’ll also find a range of further evidence, including that a solid percentage even of children get hospitalised and the youngest death is of a 14 year old.

 

[donkyboy]

The younger ones are calling it the boomer-remover.

I can claim Gen-X status, though.

someone was quick to register the domain quaranteens.com which this generation will probably be remembered by

 

[Aladdin]

Most people in Ireland are living like this the past week or more too - and cases still rising steadily.
I fear England is going to see a spiralling of infections shortly. It's in each person's own interest and health to be as cautious as possible.

Except for the ones furiously exercising and rushing to the beaches.
A hardware store with garden centre attached thatbis up the road from me, was busier than ever yestrrday. Packed with people buying DIY project materials for wheb they finally decide to go indoors.

 

[Supine]

The company denied this. As they would.

There is no regulation that disallows this

 

[weltweit]

Oxford team develops rapid coronavirus test
https://www.theengineer.co.uk/oxford-rapid-coronavirus-test/

Looks like a good bit of progress this.

 

[SpookyFrank]

There is no regulation that disallows this

Even if there was, surely they could ignore it in the circumstances. The prospect of enforcement in the circumstances would be nil.

 

[Doodler]

The western hemisphere generally will be in a bad way after this, not only socially and economically but also in terms of prestige. Technocratic eastern Asian nation's will be the ones admired by many for their handling of the pandemic. Everyone knows such a shift in power and influence has been happening anyway but the pandemic will speed up the process.

 

[two sheds]

And tight control of population as per China will likely come more in favour

 

[Supine]

Even if there was, surely they could ignore it in the circumstances. The prospect of enforcement in the circumstances would be nil.

Kind of. The FDA have just issued guidance for ventilator manufacturers regarding what can and can't be done to bring new devices to market very quickly. It's an unprecedented move which will help companies get to market ASAP.

 

[alex_]

Technocratic eastern Asian nation's will be the ones admired by many for their handling of the pandemic.

Despotic, surely ?

 

[Doodler]

Despotic, surely ?

The biggest one is, but not all of them are.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Latest on the Indy ticker, grim.


Huge rise in Spain deaths:

More than 400 people have died in Spain in cases linked to coronavirus since the last count, authorities have said.

The death toll is now 2,182, up from 1,720. Confirmed cases rose to 33,089 from 28,572.

 

[David Clapson]

youngest death is of a 14 year old.

One death of a teenager in China is not a good reason to worry about teens in general - there could be lots of very uncommon causes of that person's vulnerability, for example an undiagnosed congenital heart defect. We've all heard of apparently healthy people walking around with that sort of thing undiagnosed for years and years. There must be lots of them in China, especially in areas without sophisticated healthcare. It would make you extremely vulnerable to this virus.

 

[cupid_stunt]

The IOC has finally come out to say they are considering putting off the Olympics 2020.

They will wake-up soon to the fact that if they go ahead, most countries will not be turning up anyway.

Both Canada & Australia has pulled out, I would expect more to follow, so that's that.

 

[little_legs]

Maybe Japan's fash prime minister does not mind that some pensioners will die:

 

[kabbes]

One death of a teenager in China is not a good reason to worry about teens in general - there could be lots of very uncommon causes of that person's vulnerability, for example an undiagnosed congenital heart defect. We've all heard of apparently healthy people walking around with that sort of thing undiagnosed for years and years. There must be lots of them in China, especially in areas without sophisticated healthcare. It would make you extremely vulnerable to this virus.

We could all have undiagnosed health problems. That’s the nature of undiagnosed problems. None of us can guarantee being undiagnosed health problem free and it’s foolish to rely on it.

 

[kabbes]

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[Proper Tidy]

Also going 'oh the young are fine, well unless they have medical issues, diagnosed or unknown' is a little bit survival of the fittest

 

[Anju]

Why does it seem high, when all the talk is about expecting 60-70% of the population to get it?

Because it's too early for that percentage and with less than 10% of US population they have nearly half of the total cases.

Probably is just down to numbers tested I suppose.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Kind of. The FDA have just issued guidance for ventilator manufacturers regarding what can and can't be done to bring new devices to market very quickly. It's an unprecedented move which will help companies get to market ASAP.

Only sensible to relax certain protocols at the moment, but abandoning all protocols entirely is a recipe for a total disaster. That kind of Trump-like panic could lead to many unnecessary deaths.

 

[Sue]

Also going 'oh the young are fine, well unless they have medical issues, diagnosed or unknown' is a little bit survival of the fittest

Yep, it kind of makes it feel like you're expendable if you have an underlying condition. (And let's remember that could be something very common like asthma or high blood pressure so not specially exotic or unusual. )

 

[kabbes]

Also going 'oh the young are fine, well unless they have medical issues, diagnosed or unknown' is a little bit survival of the fittest

That’s my main thought process on it, but we were being asked here specifically to provide evidence that being young doesn’t make you safe.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

A thought about the international figures and the rolling stats.

It does appear that you can't glean much from looking at changes from one day to the next, but that you can get a pretty reliable idea of what's going on by taking any three-day chunk and comparing it to the next one. So one day of fewer cases/deaths doesn't count for much. Thinking about why that might be, I think it may show how clumpy infection is - one or two people infecting a whole bunch of others in a short space of time before self-isolating so that those they infect all come down with it together and cause a spike in the numbers.

 

[little_legs]

That US line is scary

 

[littlebabyjesus]

That's a logarithmic scale, so any curve that is more or less straight indicates exponential growth. In that sense, they're all scary except China, S Korea and Japan, and perhaps Iran.

 

[little_legs]

The US is the only dumb country that is yet to shut shit down nation wide.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The US is the only dumb country that is yet to shut shit down nation wide.

New York has done. One of the problems with country comparisons is that you're not always comparing like with like. It's better to compare the whole of China with the whole of Europe, for instance, with Italy as our 'Hubei', and to compare the whole of Europe with the US, with New York as the US's 'Italy'.