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[Mr.Bishie]

Coronavirus: Asian nations face second wave of imported cases

There is growing concern that people returning home as borders close could bring the virus with them.

www.bbc.co.uk

South Korea, China and Singapore are among the Asian countries facing a second coronavirus wave, spurred by people importing it from outside.

 

[5t3IIa]

Can someone please help me find a list of key workers, as defined in the current circumstances?

I understand that ‘NHS and police’ are easily understood at a top level after the news briefing relating to school closures yesterday but are there other jobs included?

 

[Steel Icarus]

Can someone please help me find a list of key workers, as defined in the current circumstances?

I understand that ‘NHS and police’ are easily understood at a top level after the news briefing relating to school closures yesterday but are there other jobs included?

I don't have a list but I'm certain supermarket workers and delivery drivers were included, and surely council workers like binmen will be too

 

[chilango]

• You are a member of NHS staff
• You work for the police or armed forces
• You work in the fire and rescue service
• You work for children or adult social care
• You deliver food or medical supplies
• You are a member of school staff providing cover for children in your own school
• You have been told by your employer you are in an eligible job (please give further information)

When we receive confirmation of eligibility from the government tomorrow we may update the above list.

A list I saw yesterday...

 

[5t3IIa]

I don't have a list but I'm certain supermarket workers and delivery drivers were included, and surely council workers like binmen will be too

Im potentially in a ‘secondary’ service but not a sexy one. In fact, one that people are generally scared of so I’m partly sure it’s on the list but no word from the employer yet (civil service) I just hoped there’d be a longer list, with all the orgs drilled down. Too much to ask, I suppose

 

[5t3IIa]

A list I saw yesterday...

Thank you! Could I have a link? Assume it’s .gov? Cheers

 

[chilango]

Thank you! Could I have a link? Assume it’s .gov? Cheers

It's not .gov, it was in an email sent out by a school Head.

It's the list they're provisionally using till the Government catches up and issues official guidance.

 

[5t3IIa]

It's not .gov, it was in an email sent out by a school Head.

It's the list they're provisionally using till the Government catches up and issues official guidance.

Jfc no official guidance

 

[chilango]

Jfc no official guidance

It's a bit of a thread running through the whole response isn't it?

Laissez-faire in the extreme

 

[5t3IIa]

I don’t know about any other Civil Servants on the boards but I, for one, am Quite Frustrated I understand we have to wait for the Ministries to trickle down nothing but o m g the waiting.

 

[chilango]

Remember the people in charge were raised with this as their scripture...

I think we have gone through a period when too many children and people have been given to understand "I have a problem, it is the Government's job to cope with it!" or "I have a problem, I will go and get a grant to cope with it!" "I am homeless, the Government must house me!" and so they are casting their problems on society and who is society? There is no such thing! There are individual men and women and there are families and no government can do anything except through people and people look to themselves first. It is our duty to look after ourselves and then also to help look after our neighbour and life is a reciprocal business and people have got the entitlements too much in mind without the obligations.

 

[Steel Icarus]

I don’t know about any other Civil Servants on the boards but I, for one, am Quite Frustrated I understand we have to wait for the Ministries to trickle down nothing but o m g the waiting.

I think it's the same for everyone really. Waiting and not knowing is going to get on top of me if I'm not careful.

 

[5t3IIa]

I think it's the same for everyone really. Waiting and not knowing is going to get on top of me if I'm not careful.

At least private business can make their own decisions. But yes, you’re quite right.

 

[Teaboy]

One of the major frustrations about the testing regime (or non-testing) is that most people who have had it and got through OK won't know whether it was the virus or just a standard seasonal thing. I know the reasons why we are not testing but what a great thing it would be if people who have had it and built up decent immunity could actually get out there and start helping instead of staying at home watching netflix and eating pot noodles.

I know its not absolutely certain you can't get it twice but from everything I've read it seems highly unlikely and we are playing the odds here. Better get people out helping the vulnerable and helping our stretched public services than sat at home on the very small chance you can get it twice.

 

[agricola]

One of the major frustrations about the testing regime (or non-testing) is that most people who have had it and got through OK won't know whether it was the virus or just a standard seasonal thing. I know the reasons why we are not testing but what a great thing it would be if people who have had it and built up decent immunity could actually get out there and start helping instead of staying at home watching netflix and eating pot noodles.

I know its not absolutely certain you can't get it twice but from everything I've read it seems highly unlikely and we are playing the odds here. Better get people out helping the vulnerable and helping our stretched public services than sat at home on the very small chance you can get it twice.

Indeed - the amount of people in the emergency services who have flu-like symptoms and self-isolated but who don't know if they have this is growing all the time, and as you say if they do have it now and are immune then they are going to be very useful in the next few weeks / months. Not testing them is daft, especially as they know who they are and that they are all sat at home.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Rogue statelets Abkhazia and nagorno karabakh remain (officially) Covid free.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Indeed - the amount of people in the emergency services who have flu-like symptoms and self-isolated but who don't know if they have this is growing all the time, and as you say if they do have it now and are immune then they are going to be very useful in the next few weeks / months. Not testing them is daft, especially as they know who they are and that they are all sat at home.

Cheese string hair said yesterday antibody tests are on the way which will greenlight people they know have had it to get back into the world. No timeframe though.

 

[Teaboy]

Rogue statelets Abkhazia and nagorno karabakh remain (officially) Covid free.

Cambodia doing well also. Quite remarkable given their links to China and their big tourist industry in general. Obviously doing something right...?

 

[Flavour]

... not testing?

 

[Pickman's model]

Got an email from public health england just now, much info about cv here Finding the evidence: Coronavirus

 

[Teaboy]

... not testing?

You're very cynical. The president declared Cambodia corona free. Surely you'd trust an ex Kymer Rouge guy?

 

[agricola]

You're very cynical. The president declared Cambodia corona free. Surely you'd trust an ex Kymer Rouge guy?

year zero testing?

 

[weltweit]

Michel Barnier the EU negotiator working on Brexit has got it !!

 

[treelover]

Many people seem to be abusing the early shopping hour in supermarkets for elderly and vulnerable, scum

though many vulnerable people never go out that early.

maybe the tabloids can switch their naming and shaming from the poor disabled, etc, to these people,

 

[Wilf]

if you have anyone to see, get it done asap.

I drove down to my Mum's care home yesterday (100 mile trip I do every other week). Got a voicemail on route that they are in lockdown.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

Coronavirus: Asian nations face second wave of imported cases

There is growing concern that people returning home as borders close could bring the virus with them.

www.bbc.co.uk

South Korea, China and Singapore are among the Asian countries facing a second coronavirus wave, spurred by people importing it from outside.

This is what the whole world is going to have to do. Keep borders closed until at least 4 weeks after no new cases in the country, and then only lift borders with other countries that have done the same with no new cases in 4 weeks.

I think it's probably the only way possible.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

I drove down to my Mum's care home yesterday (100 mile trip I do every other week). Got a voicemail on route that they are in lockdown.

My dad's care home is locked down too. Has been since Monday. No visitors at all. My dad has no cough reflex and swallowing difficulties amongst other things so if the bug gets in the care home he's finished.

 

[andysays]

Many people seem to be abusing the early shopping hour in supermarkets for elderly and vulnerable, scum

though many vulnerable people never go out that early.

maybe the tabloids can switch their naming and shaming from the poor disabled, etc, to these people,

Where do you get this information from?

How do you know the people you're accusing aren't vulnerable in some way, or essential staff who have to get their shopping done at this time for any number of reasons?

Gotta keep up that daily hate quota somehow...

 

[Wilf]

Michel Barnier the EU negotiator working on Brexit has got it !!

Crexit, Croaksit... Damn, need better puns.

 

[treelover]

Just heard half my tesco online shop is not avaialbale, mushrooms, potatoes, lemons, quorn products, essentials like laundry liquid, they need to get a grip, i am contacting politicians, ministers, etc, we need some kid of rationing.

i knew that the system could not cope with a major disaster: the network i have been part of, has been battling with the council, govt, etc, about the crisis in social care for ages, for now, we are are on our own, we now really need civil society to step up where it simply hasn't been in the past.