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[scifisam]

Yep me too. How are you with monkeys? A- here.

Also a- but tbh, and I know it's weird, I've not had much direct experience with monkeys.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Oh fucking great

People with blood type A may be more susceptible to coronavirus

Thankfully I've got common as muck O blood.

 

[scifisam]

While I can understand that this is a massive deal and a source of great uncertainty for those directly affected, I'm not convinced that deciding when exams should take place or how college intakes might work next September is or should be the government's top priority ATM.

I think you might be underestimating the number of kids whose lives will be negatively affected by this. Nobody's saying it's more important than intensive care beds.

 

[two sheds]

Also a- but tbh, and I know it's weird, I've not had much direct experience with monkeys.

there's time yet

 

[campanula]

Not that too. It's starting to feel like this virus is designed specifically to target me!

Yep me too. How are you with monkeys? A- here.

Feck - me too (A-)

 

[agricola]

While I can understand that this is a massive deal and a source of great uncertainty for those directly affected, I'm not convinced that deciding when exams should take place or how college intakes might work next September is or should be the government's top priority ATM.

Deciding whose kids stay in school is possibly the most critical decision they've made so far - emergency services and the military will have to, as will delivery workers but they will also have to cover anyone involved in food production / distribution and everyone in the medical supply chain too.

 

[maomao]

Oh fucking great

People with blood type A may be more susceptible to coronavirus

The Chinese are obsessed with blood types. It's a study of 2 and a half thousand people and while it's statistically significant it's certainly not definitive. Wouldnt worry about that factor specifically too much. Says Mr Type O.

 

[terrythomas]

why does johnson and co keep hinting at what's to come? it's creating confusion when clarity is required

 

[maomao]

why does johnson and co keep hinting at what's to come? it's creating confusion when clarity is required

Because they're obsessed with the public reaction and want to see the reaction before they've made the decision. Then they pretend it's all Dom and his behavioural science. Is it fuck.

 

[two sheds]

The Chinese are obsessed with blood types. It's a study of 2 and a half thousand people and while it's statistically significant it's certainly not definitive. Wouldnt worry about that factor specifically too much. Says Mr Type O.

Ahhh now you mention it I remember reading something about that. I'm snake for example:

Snake's Personality Analysis by Four Blood Types

Analysis on Chinese Zodiac Snake based on different blood types, O, A, B, and AB, including the personality traits, strong points, weak points, and suggestions.

www.travelchinaguide.com

People born in the Year of the Snake with blood type A are too talkative, and like giving speeches in public occasion to draw others’ attention. People think they are flashy and self-ego, and will choose to isolate them at last. They are also over sophisticated in relationship, lack of uprightness. They usually make up to boss or leaders, and even selling their work fellows. Although they get what they want, but they lose their friends, their most powerful backup.

Says nothing about susceptibility to coronavirus - phew.

 

[Hollis]

I think you might be underestimating the number of kids whose lives will be negatively affected by this. Nobody's saying it's more important than intensive care beds.

Yes - but actually what about the lives of staff supporting them - they are statistically at much higher risk than children. I'm not sure anyone's health should be put at risk.

 

[scifisam]

The Chinese are obsessed with blood types. It's a study of 2 and a half thousand people and while it's statistically significant it's certainly not definitive. Wouldnt worry about that factor specifically too much. Says Mr Type O.

That's true (a Chinese ex of mine followed a blood type diet and would only let me eat food for my blood type when I was around her), but it is a statistically significant difference. Since blood types vary by country, and it's possible to inherit susceptibility to some diseases (white Europeans are less likely to contact HIV, for example), it wouldn't be that surprising if there were different levels of severity across blood types. Not that it's an extra reason to be concerned, still.

 

[scifisam]

Yes - but actually what about the lives of staff supporting them - they are statistically at much higher risk than children. I'm not sure anyone's health should be put at risk.

That doesn't mean completely cancelling the exams rather than delaying them.

 

[Hollis]

That doesn't mean completely cancelling the exams rather than delaying them.

No, the feeling in my school was the announcement on exams was premature... It should set alarm bells that they seem so confident that people aren't going to be able to go back to school to the summer. However I'm not sure what the other options are - delay a year?

 

[maomao]

That's true (a Chinese ex of mine followed a blood type diet and would only let me eat food for my blood type when I was around her), but it is a statistically significant difference. Since blood types vary by country, and it's possible to inherit susceptibility to some diseases (white Europeans are less likely to contact HIV, for example), it wouldn't be that surprising if there were different levels of severity across blood types. Not that it's an extra reason to be concerned, still.

Absolutely. Blood type has a lot to do with antibody production. But look at the figures. It's not a done deal and the sample size is pretty small.

 

[oryx]

London due to go into lockdown any day now. Also hearing this from other sources.

London could go into lockdown under tougher coronavirus measures

No 10 considers stricter containment steps as disease spreads rapidly in the capital

www.theguardian.com

 

[bimble]

We saw what happened when they announced it in Milan, people rushing from the city to every corner of the country. May be a partial explanation for the reluctance to announce such measures clearly before implementing?

 

[agricola]

London due to go into lockdown any day now. Also hearing this from other sources.

London could go into lockdown under tougher coronavirus measures

No 10 considers stricter containment steps as disease spreads rapidly in the capital

www.theguardian.com

Sturgeon should really stop coming out with things like that - I can well imagine they have discussed it and might well be bringing it in, but saying that it looks likely is just going to pack people onto trains and planes to all points of the UK . If they are going to announce it, it has to be certain.

 

[prunus]

While I sympathise with your sentiment prunus you can see from the above quotes from other threads that this is indeed what has been happening in Italy and definitely planned for in the UK.

Apologies for those quotes being out of sync and missing the one that confirms Italy. Too ill to sort it out, sorry.

TBH it was the use of 'are' as in it's happening now that I considered required greater clarity of source - are over 80s really being denied access to hospital now? I think we'd have heard of it somewhere other than a random on a message board*. That it will happen unless we lockdown tightly (and maybe even then) I don't doubt. But let's not ramp up the fear ahead of where it needs to be.

* I could be wrong of course.

 

[oryx]

I agree, but there is already evidence that people flocking to the coast etc. in other countries has added to the problem so while a bit of advance notice is welcome, people should be sensible enough to realise that and not travel.

 

[Indeliblelink]

Here’s the New Bill:

[Withdrawn] [Withdrawn] What the Coronavirus Bill will do

www.gov.uk

was just reading this, pretty grim reading. Crematoria running round the clock and commissioning vehicles to move bodies about.

Managing the deceased with respect and dignity
....
If the scientific advice indicates that the number of people who might die from COVID-19 is likely to significantly exceed the capacity locally to manage the deceased and other contingency measures have been deployed, local government will have the ability to take control of a component or components of the death management process in their area.

For example, local authorities may choose to direct local actors such as funeral directors, mortuaries owners, crematoriums owners and others, to streamline the death management process. This may include an increase in the operating times of crematoriums, directing companies to use their vehicles to move bodies, or directing others not directly involved in the funeral sector, to provide necessary support.

Only in the most extreme situations where there is a risk to public health would the powers of direction be used and only be used when scientific evidence and operational advice suggests that it is necessary. Activating the powers will ensure the local death management system continues to work effectively to protect public health and the dignity of the deceased. Personal choice will be respected as far as possible, especially in regard to how we handle loved ones after they have passed.

 

[prunus]

Absolutely. Blood type has a lot to do with antibody production. But look at the figures. It's not a done deal and the sample size is pretty small.

And the effect is not that strong. 37% of hospitalised cases type A vs 32% of the general population. It's not like it's selectively culling all the type As.

NB also the study suggests type O is protective, let's not only focus on the negative side

Disclaimer - I don't know what my blood group is, so...

 

[scifisam]

And the effect is not that strong. 37% of hospitalised cases type A vs 32% of the general population. It's not like it's selectively culling all the type As.

NB also the study suggests type O is protective, let's not only focus on the negative side

Disclaimer - I don't know what my blood group is, so...

85 is 41%of 206, isn't it? Not 37%. And only 28% of China is in the A blood group. So it's 41% vs 28%.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Like fuck are schools opening again the rest of this year.

 

[Kaka Tim]

How long before we hear the words "national government"

 

[elbows]

I dont know what blood type I am anyway. I seem to recall my paternal grandfather used to brag about being type O.

 

[Steel Icarus]

How long before we hear the words "national government"

Was thinking that earlier today.

 

[maomao]

I dont know what blood type I am anyway. I seem to recall my paternal grandfather used to brag about being type O.

Home test kits are a couple of quid if you're bothered. Or just go out with/marry someone Chinese. They'll make you find out.

 

[two sheds]

... or give blood

 

[elbows]

How long before we hear the words "national government"

I couldnt guess a timescale but as with most things, very much including all things political, governmental and economic, my attitude in this sort of pandemic will be 'never say never'.

The current government & their scientific advisers do seem to keep giving us the means by which to judge them a failure. There was the 4 weeks timescale that then became '3 weeks+London a bit head' and more recently we keep getting told that the target is to keep deaths down to around 20,000.