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[ruffneck23]

Schools across UK to shut down from as early as Friday

But emergency powers allow ministers to force some schools to remain open for children of key workers

www.independent.co.uk

finally , boris one step behind as usual

 

[planetgeli]

I hate to say this, but that's the plan that's been talked about in the hospital I work in.

I think this deserves its own thread, i know a fair few medical sources, including an ex inf diseases nurse who basically helps sick people with advice, medics and others, and i am hearing that patients over 80 are not being allowed to go into hospital, while in doncaster, those who have a co-morbity will not be allocated an ICU ventilator

this needs confirming of course, i do hope it is wrong.

Perhaps do the confirming before posting the alarming news that is likely to cause possibly unnecessary mental distress to quite a lot of vulnerable people?

While I sympathise with your sentiment prunus you can see from the above quotes from other threads that this is indeed what has been happening in Italy and definitely planned for in the UK.

Apologies for those quotes being out of sync and missing the one that confirms Italy. Too ill to sort it out, sorry.

 

[strung out]

32 more deaths - total now at 104

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Just heard that 50% of coronavirus intensive care cases in France are of people under 60. This seems to be very different from Italy. No explanation that I have seen yet.

 

[Pickman's model]

Just heard that 50% of coronavirus intensive care cases in France are of people under 60. This seems to be very different from Italy. No explanation that I have seen yet.

source?

 

[Teaboy]

Schools across UK to shut down from as early as Friday

But emergency powers allow ministers to force some schools to remain open for children of key workers

www.independent.co.uk

finally , boris one step behind as usual

I thought the purpose of keeping the schools open was that health workers could get to work and not have to stay at home looking after children? Not surprising they held off this long.

 

[Kaka Tim]

UK failures over Covid-19 will increase death toll, says leading doctor

Horton said nothing in the science had changed since January. “The UK’s best scientists have known since that first report from China that Covid-19 was a lethal illness. Yet they did too little, too late,” he said.

Horton has been a vocal critic of the government’s approach to the coronavirus pandemic from the start, and his concerns have been echoed by many scientists who work on infectious disease outbreaks.

Devi Sridhar, a professor of global public health at the University of Edinburgh, tweeted: “We had the data. We had time. We should have learned from this data in early Jan and anyone looking at this from a public health/medical side has been worried about the stress on the health system, in every country.”

Which is what a lot of people have been saying on here and elsewhere. What i dont understand is why our public health experts have failed so badly - you expect Johnson and co to be wankers - but why didn't the people with knowledge and expertise go along with his lackadaisical approach? Where was the contingency planning? We probably wont ever know until the public enquiry finishes sometime in 2038.

 

[2hats]

Just heard that 50% of coronavirus intensive care cases in France are of people under 60. This seems to be very different from Italy. No explanation that I have seen yet.

I think this is what the WH Coronavirus Task Force press conference has just touched upon. Birx initial interpretation seemed to hypothesise that millennials have taken a larger risk with this (chimes with my personal observations over the last ~2 weeks - perhaps it is down to that cohort's misinterpretation of initial data and trends out of SE Asia, to say nothing of the invincibility of youth) and maybe the over exposure has led to more infections/higher viral loads so statistically we are simply just starting to see disproportionately more serious cases in that demographic.

 

[two sheds]

UK failures over Covid-19 will increase death toll, says leading doctor



Which is what a lot of people have been saying on here and elsewhere. What i dont understand is why our public health experts have failed so badly - you expect Johnson and co to be wankers - but why didn't the people with knowledge and expertise go along with his lackadaisical approach? Where was the contingency planning? We probably wont ever know until the public enquiry finishes sometime in 2038.

I suspect they listened to the experts that they wanted to listen to, and gave them clear briefings on what they wanted to hear.

 

[Kaka Tim]

I suspect they listened to the experts that they wanted to listen to, and gave them clear briefings on what they wanted to hear.

But why did Sir Patrick Vallance, the government’s chief scientific adviser, and Chris Whitty, the chief medical officer go along with this? Especially the "herd immunity" stuff and lack of testing - which was completely out of step with every other country and WHO guidelines. Why weren't they contingency planning? Are they gutless fucks? I think both of their reputations will be in the toilet when this is all over.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

source?

Jerome Salomon, director general for health, quoted in Business Insider (not my normal read).

 

[little_legs]

He is offering the hotel to the NHS staff, get in.

 

[two sheds]

But why did Sir Patrick Vallance, the government’s chief scientific adviser, and Chris Whitty, the chief medical officer go along with this? Especially the "herd immunity" stuff and lack of testing - which was completely out of step with every other country and WHO guidelines. Why weren't they contingency planning? Are they gutless fucks? I think both of their reputations will be in the toilet when this is all over.

Agreed, and my post looks weaker the more I look at it. I wonder whether they were saying that we should be doing contingency planning but just weren't listened to and were told not to say anything in public.

And yep I wouldn't give much for their reputations - they're going to look like they were just political appointees.

 

[Pickman's model]

Just heard that 50% of coronavirus intensive care cases in France are of people under 60. This seems to be very different from Italy. No explanation that I have seen yet.

very curious being as today he said only 7% of those infected were under 70

'Thank you Parisians, don’t bring the virus': plea from rural France

As Parisians flee to countryside, rural-dwellers accuse them of spreading infection and emptying shops

www.theguardian.com

 

[not-bono-ever]

you never heard this here but be prepared for 14 day lockdown and 10 week social distancing announcement

good luck all

 

[weltweit]

With today's deaths bringing UK to a total of 104, the UK is now ranked 7th by deaths in the world.

 

[MrCurry]

you never heard this here but be prepared for 14 day lockdown and 10 week social distancing announcement

good luck all

That will be quite an escalation. By lockdown do we mean what France is doing, no going out unless you’re shopping?

 

[Pickman's model]

That will be quite an escalation. By lockdown do we mean what France is doing, no going out unless you’re shopping?

i wonder, will brighton rerun their carnival of shopping again this year?

 

[Pickman's model]

With today's deaths bringing UK to a total of 104, the UK is now ranked 7th by deaths in the world.

reports from downing streets indicate that johnson is going ballistic that the uk might miss out on a medal

 

[Kaka Tim]

That will be quite an escalation. By lockdown do we mean what France is doing, no going out unless you’re shopping?

Id put money on it. They will have to.

 

[little_legs]

Someone is feeling Churchullian. What's with the random caps lock and underlining though.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

Krakow City Council has released this f9r English speakers in the City.

Lots of good information. You can compare to UK measures.

https://www.krakow.pl/zalacznik/356534

 

[2hats]

very curious being as today he said only 7% of those infected were under 70

infected != intensive care admissions

 

[treelover]

Schools close their gates on friday, williamson announces.

the crisis deepens

 

[Pickman's model]

Someone is feeling Churchullian. What's with the randon caps lock and underlining though.

only this is the churchill of 1915, the churchill who came up with gallipoli

 

[not-bono-ever]

if you have anyone to see, get it done asap.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Called it a couple of weeks ago (closed schools 20th).

This government is a fucking mess. No closedown then a closedown. Stop testing then massively ramp up testing. Increase social distancing but no shutting of social places

 

[Pickman's model]

infected != intensive care admissions

7% of 7730 is 541

i suspect things have changed radically in france since he spoke to business insider or cnn or whoever

 

[bimble]

if you have anyone to see, get it done asap.

Fucks sake. Heard the rumour but expected an announcement . Why would they do it this way instead?

 

[not-bono-ever]

Called it a couple of weeks ago.

This government is a fucking mess. No closedown then a closedown. Stop testing then massively ramp up testing. Increase social distancing but no shutting of social places

this is what i heard earlier today from a solid source