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[2hats]

Cleaning things is helpful more than ever.

Coronavirus can persist in air for hours and on surfaces for days: study

The highly contagious novel coronavirus that has exploded into a global pandemic can remain viable and infectious in droplets in the air for hours and on surfaces up to days, according to a new study that should offer guidance to help people avoid contracting the respiratory...

www.reuters.com

More detail...

New coronavirus stable for hours on surfaces

SARS-CoV-2 stability similar to original SARS virus.

www.nih.gov

Which comes from this paper DOI: 10.1056/NEJMc2004973 (2020).

 

[T & P]

Everything was fine in Walford last night, probably the only pub in London fully doing St Patrick's Day

I don't watch Eastenders but am curious to know this. Given that they pride themselves in incorporating current events into their storylines despite the episodes being filmed weeks in advance, has the issue of Coronavirus featured yet?

 

[lizzieloo]

I don't watch Eastenders but am curious to know this. Given that they pride themselves in incorporating current events into their storylines despite the episodes being filmed weeks in advance, has the issue of Coronavirus featured yet?

No, usually they'll film Kath and Ian (or some other cockernee pair) having a conversation about the latest thing then they slip it in (fnar). But with this they can't, just mentioning it won't work, they'd all have to go into isolation, not go to work, the pubs would be empty, blah blah blah...

They're gonna have to ignore it, we can all watch and get teary eyed about the good old days and how great life is in Albert Square.

 

[T & P]

No, usually they'll film Kath and Ian (or some other cockernee pair) having a conversation about the latest thing then they slip it in (fnar). But with this they can't, just mentioning it won't work, they'd all have to go into isolation, not go to work, the pubs would be empty, blah blah blah...

They're gonna have to ignore it, we can all watch and get teary eyed about the good old days and how great life is in Albert Square.

Probably for the fist time ever, the mortality rate in Eastenders will soon be lower than in real life

 

[platinumsage]

More detail...

New coronavirus stable for hours on surfaces

SARS-CoV-2 stability similar to original SARS virus.

www.nih.gov

Which comes from this paper DOI: 10.1056/NEJMc2004973 (2020).

I believe there has yet to be a confirmed case of transmission via a surface? It really should be person-to-person contact that is the focus - droplets from the mouth that land and nearby people's faces, whether through coughing, sneezing, laughing or talking.

 

[Looby]

No, usually they'll film Kath and Ian (or some other cockernee pair) having a conversation about the latest thing then they slip it in (fnar). But with this they can't, just mentioning it won't work, they'd all have to go into isolation, not go to work, the pubs would be empty, blah blah blah...

They're gonna have to ignore it, we can all watch and get teary eyed about the good old days and how great life is in Albert Square.

They did this on Corrie last night, gaslighting Jeff was talking about hand washing for 20 seconds.

 

[2hats]

I believe there has yet to be a confirmed case of transmission via a surface? It really should be person-to-person contact that is the focus - droplets from the mouth that land and nearby people's faces, whether through coughing, sneezing, laughing or talking.

If you don't look you won't find. It's seen with all viruses to some greater or lesser degree. One should assume the possibility and take precautions, act and clean accordingly.

 

[weltweit]

I believe there has yet to be a confirmed case of transmission via a surface?
..

How would one ascertain surface transmission?

This is why we are instructed to wash our hands.

 

[wayward bob]

"On copper, it took 4 hours for the virus to become inactivated"

<checks stash>
<knits suit of armour>

 

[platinumsage]

How would one ascertain surface transmission?

This is why we are instructed to wash our hands.

By contact tracing, e.g. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30528-6/fulltext

If there's no close contact then you trace routes and look at surfaces.

The CDC page makes it clear person-to-person is the main route, whilst acknowledging a possibly of surface transmission.

It just seems unfortunate that people are washing their hands raw but continuing to talk face-to-face to people without standing more than 6 feet away.

 

[ska invita]

[/QUOTE]

Was a smirking sports lawyer on the news yesterday rubbing his hands at all the issues arising from shutting down the football league. With each new problem he mentioned his eyes got wider....he could barely believe his luck.

 

[TopCat]

Can you try again, in English?

Dont be silly

 

[Steel Icarus]

EUROVISION CANCELLED

 

[Fedayn]

Coronavirus: All schools, nurseries to close at end of week

Nicola Sturgeon confirmed they have now lost too many staff to continue as normal.

news.stv.tv

Schools and nurseries across Scotland are to close at the end of this week, the First Minister has said.
Nicola Sturgeon confirmed they have now lost too many staff to continue as normal and said she can’t promise they won’t reopen until after the summer holidays.

 

[planetgeli]

No, there aren’t. In time this will be seen as one of the most foolish mistakes we have made. Schools are breeding grounds for disease at the best of times. Millions of ‘unavoidable’ connections being made every day. It’s the perfect way to spread it and why a hell of a lot of other countries have made the move to close schools.

Add to that, I don’t like the government playing roulette with my life. Especially when it’s just a matter of time. I’m willing to bet these ‘sound reasons’ won’t count for shit in a few days time when, guess what, they’ll close the schools.

Hate to say I told you so.

 

[platinumsage]

99% of deaths in Italy have been people with pre-exisiting conditions:

 

[weltweit]

Education secretary to make announcement at 5pm in the commons.

 

[treelover]

DECEMBER 2016: CMO Sally Davies

“We’ve just had in the UK a 3-day exercise on flu, on a pandemic that killed a lot of people..It became clear that we could not cope with the excess bodies”.

Inadequate ventilation capacity was specifically identified. NO changes to planning were implemented.

Government documents show no planning for ventilators in the event of a pandemic

After failing to prepare, the UK now faces a grave shortage of the machines that will keep critical patients alive.

www.newstatesman.com

(Thx to @fascinatorfun)

very revealing, this Govt should be finished after it is all over.

 

[Cid]

99% of deaths in Italy have been people with per-exisiting conditions:

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There are about 26 million in the uk with at least one long term condition.

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[treelover]

a song for our times.

 

[hegley]

Pretty big jump in figures today

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Education secretary to make announcement at 5pm in the commons.

Wales & Scotland to close all schools come Friday - looking highly likely UK will follow suit.

 

[treelover]

Cost Price Toilet Roll – Sealed Pack Of 4 For Collection Only

www.leadmill.co.uk

local venue bulk buying toilet paper, then selling cost price, wonderful.

 

[T & P]

Spain is to close all hotels next week. Not a moment too soon, given the disgraceful antics by some tourists that have surfaced on the net...

 

[Numbers]

On the BBC site

First UK prisoner tests positive
The first prisoner to be diagnosed with coronavirus in the UK has been confirmed.
The BBC's home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw says the prisoner is serving their sentence at HMP Manchester and is currently in hospital.
He adds that no other prison staff or prisoners have tested positive, but 13 prisoners and four members of staff have been put into isolation as a precaution.

 

[Teaboy]

Wales & Scotland to close all schools come Friday - looking highly likely UK will follow suit.

Speaking to a couple of teachers and they reckon a lot of schools have got to the point where there just isn't enough staff available as they're isolating. Whether the government want to close schools or not its going to happen.

 

[treelover]

Carer just told me no potatoes in the big tescos!

and they used to show films of empty shelves in the Soviet Union.

 

[treelover]

I think this deserves its own thread, i know a fair few medical sources, including an ex inf diseases nurse who basically helps sick people with advice, medics and others, and i am hearing that patients over 80 are not being allowed to go into hospital, while in doncaster, those who have a co-morbity will not be allocated an ICU ventilator

this needs confirming of course, i do hope it is wrong.

 

[The39thStep]

Awaiting this afternoon for the Portuguese parliament to announce state of emergency . Just spoke to a Portuguese bar owner who said that perhaps restaurants and bars will be closed tomorrow , supermarkets will remain open . Apparently the constitution ( which was passed with one eye on preventing a return to fascism ) is extremely complicated and is a minefield for a state of emergency .
Ive been in the bar since lunch at 2 , if it’s announced the bars are closing I’m doing the full shift till 9 .

 

[prunus]

I think this deserves its own thread, <snip>

this needs confirming of course, i do hope it is wrong.

Perhaps do the confirming before posting the alarming news that is likely to cause possibly unnecessary mental distress to quite a lot of vulnerable people?