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If you sort this list by deaths, rather than cases, it looks a little different

Britain is 10th by cases, 8th by deaths.
 
I had a argument today with security guard. Picking up letter from a big building in the City of London.

One signs out letters on a touch screen. So secuity guard puts the machine in front of me. I say Im not signing on a touch screen. Said Ive stopped getting people to sign with finger on my machine. He says I have to, I refuse. He gets the security manager. I say virus is going around Im just puttiing peoples names on machine not getting them to sign with finger.

The lady whose letter it is comes down to loading bay to add something else to package. She understands what Im going on about.

Tells security guard manager to let me have package without signing with my finger on touch screen. She tells him that Royal Mail have stopped this.

Security manager says he understands but its not part of there "procedures" yet.:facepalm:

I walk off saying its just commonsense.
We had exactly the same thing in Superdrug today. Mr W ordered some stuff as a collect-in-store to minimise social contact, the wee checkout lassie wanted him to sign her little touch screen thing, he said can you just do a squiggle for me because I don't want to touch that, official advice is to avoid contact where possible, and she said you have to sign it, there's cameras (I assume in fear of her job) so I appealed to her supervisor, who got stroppy and said 'he has to sign for his parcel'. In the end I said I would sign for it, literally did a dot on the touchscreen with a fingernail and walked out. They're going to find they're going to have to change that policy pretty quick smart.
 
I had a argument today with security guard. Picking up letter from a big building in the City of London.

One signs out letters on a touch screen. So secuity guard puts the machine in front of me. I say Im not signing on a touch screen. Said Ive stopped getting people to sign with finger on my machine. He says I have to, I refuse. He gets the security manager. I say virus is going around Im just puttiing peoples names on machine not getting them to sign with finger.

The lady whose letter it is comes down to loading bay to add something else to package. She understands what Im going on about.

Tells security guard manager to let me have package without signing with my finger on touch screen. She tells him that Royal Mail have stopped this.

Security manager says he understands but its not part of there "procedures" yet.:facepalm:

I walk off saying its just commonsense.

Fks sake mate - you deliver for DHL?

Not sure wtf is going on with a Amazon, routes are massive yet tomorrow the boss says he has 8 days off to any drivers who want a day off :confused:

Delivered to a few people who were self quarantining today - one had a poster on their door saying knock then leave parcel on doorstep for them to collect.

Roads noticeably quieter and majority of people home.
 
Fks sake mate - you deliver for DHL?

Not sure wtf is going on with a Amazon, routes are massive yet tomorrow the boss says he has 8 days off to any drivers who want a day off :confused:

Delivered to a few people who were self quarantining today - one had a poster on their door saying knock then leave parcel on doorstep for them to collect.

Roads noticeably quieter and majority of people home.

Not DHL

Small firm that does City and West End.

A lot of people used to have Amazon parcels delivered direct to there office in City. That is drying up now.

But Ive heard more people using online to buy food and have stuff delivered. So for that side of delivery market outside central London work may increase.
 
Anyone know what the situation is with flights out the U.K.? Heard Boris has put a 30 day ban in effect but can’t find anything in the news.
 
Germany seems to be doing very well, 9,352 recorded cases but just 24 deaths.

I wonder if they are doing anything different?
 
Germany seems to be doing very well, 9,352 recorded cases but just 24 deaths.

I wonder if they are doing anything different?

There will be some differences, but at this stage its not possible to say what difference its really making, it could just be that they are ~3 days behind the UK (in terms of number of deaths at least).
 
I was in Morrisons in Hillsborough. Shelves empty. I bought the last bag of potatoes. Check out lady said that they’d had 2 palettes of toilet rolls delivered and that people were like animals fighting over a gazelle. All taken in moments.

more alarming events, especially if you are in the vunerable groups, the supermarkets need to take this more seriously

I am ringing the Business/Shadow Secretaries office tomorow, the loose network of disabled and sick people i helped to set up are now really worried.
 
We're in self isolation as of now (GP advise as DH has a minor cough) and couldn't get a full food shop in due to empty shelves. No meat, bread, pasta, rice, flour, potatoes, milk, beans or eggs. I've got two kids and we're seriously having to think about rationing the food we do have. No home delivery slots until April either. The food crisis is serious for those having to stay home, and we're young healthy people.

it is serious now and not being alarmist
 
I've just been told the following:

The NHS will contact you from Monday 23 March 2020 if you are at particularly high risk of getting seriously ill with coronavirus. You'll be given specific advice about what to do.

Do not contact your GP or healthcare team at this stage – wait to be contacted.

This is directly from https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/
I'm just mentioning it, as this may mean that people have more specific needs from next week.

Significant
 
So how many cases do they realistically reckon are in the UK? Read figures of up to 55k in the gruniad, and 3 confirmed cases in my area.

Now I might be stupid, but if we aren't doing routine testing, and it's supposed to be extremely infectious, then surely 3 confirmed cases could be 3000, or 30,000 or fuck knows what. Spoke to my bro in the north east, he's feeling symptoms, I'm feeling symptoms, both healthy as fuck usually.

A proper shitshow from the govt, I must say.

When is someone going to come out and say, 'youve probably got it' rather than all this stiff upper lip, head in the sand bullshit instead of bandying round imaginary figures and platitudes?

Chief Scientific Advisor to the Government at the Select Committee today said you can estimate 1000 cases for every death, currently that's 69000 people with coronavirus.

By the way that was very interesting to watch, on iplayer most of today's meeting isn't there, the program is listed but it comes in about half way through. I found it on youtube.
 
Chief Scientific Advisor to the Government at the Select Committee today said you can estimate 1000 cases for every death, currently that's 69000 people with coronavirus.

By the way that was very interesting to watch, on iplayer most of today's meeting isn't there, the program is listed but it comes in about half way through. I found it on youtube.

Thanks. It all still seems such a guess though, doesn't it? Albeit an educated one.

Also, and forgive me for being thick here again, but if the virus was first identified in mid November and only officially reported in mid February, won't there be a lot more cases? A three month gap where no one was aware apart from a few doctors in China? Sorry, don't want to sound like a conspiraloon, but it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
 
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Cleaning things is helpful more than ever.

The tests show that when the virus is carried by the droplets released when someone coughs or sneezes, it remains viable, or able to still infect people, in aerosols for at least three hours.

On plastic and stainless steel, viable virus could be detected after three days. On cardboard, the virus was not viable after 24 hours. On copper, it took 4 hours for the virus to become inactivated.
 
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