Corbyn & Cabinet in the Media

[ViolentPanda]

From Dugher's Wiki...

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Yeah, because lobbyists for privatising (US) corporations are noted for their straight-talking.

Ah, he worked for EDS, the tech systems people who've fucked up on every major govt IT project they've been awarded a tender for.
You can bet that Dugh-bag never talked straight with his bosses there!

 

[littlebabyjesus]

A bit like the beeb? which although many are correctly critical of, does at least display some token sensitivity on appropriate issues (ie racism, sexism etc).

I have no problem with the existence of state-owned media like the BBC, despite its obvious drawbacks. But for only state-owned media to exist?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The BBC are just as biased against Corbyn as the other outlets. .

Yep, and this. Corbyn is an 'extreme left-winger' according to the BBC. That's not them quoting someone else. It's their official 'neutral' editorial line.

 

[redcogs]

I have no problem with the existence of state-owned media like the BBC, despite its obvious drawbacks. But for only state-owned media to exist?

Granted, it's a tough issue. The point surely is to encourage maximum democratic input within all paper media titles. i regard this as more important than the straight forward issue of ownership. But i struggle to see how democratic control within individual newspapers could be achieved without it being conducted on the basis of a common ownership model - if you see what i mean.

 

[DotCommunist]

just read mcfaddens exit interview. I see going with grace is like resigning for the good of the party (simon?). I. E something that is talked about but never happens

 

[redcogs]

Corby is well shot of the prick.

 

[J Ed]

I can't wait for all the Graunid articles about how Corbyn has appointed a woman to one of the four main 'offices of state' after the previous criticism that he hadn't done so...

 

[DotCommunist]

Doughty:

archaic or , humorous
Brave and persistent:his doughty spirit kept him going

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

I can't wait for all the Graunid articles about how Corbyn has appointed a woman to one of the four main 'offices of state' after the previous criticism that he hadn't done so...

On the radio about an hour ago (R4 I think) there was an item about how sexist it was that Maria Eagle has been booted. According to the person being interviewed it was "a shame a strong woman with strong opinions" was being denied a voice. Presumably this means that her replacement Emily Thornberry is a weak woman with weak opinions. They didn't say that though.

 

[killer b]

Why would he go with grace? He's being booted for making snide insinuations in the house, he's blatantly going to take the opportunity to plunge the knife in.

 

[Pickman's model]

On the radio about an hour ago (R4 I think) there was an item about how sexist it was that Maria Eagle has been booted. According to the person being interviewed it was "a shame a strong woman with strong opinions" was being denied a voice. Presumably this means that her replacement Emily Thornberry is a weak woman with weak opinions. They didn't say that though.

you can be a strong woman (or man) with strong opinions but that doesn't mean your opinions are worth anything.

 

[J Ed]

Blairites and the liberal media are just fantastic at gaslighting, really really good.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

you can be a strong woman (or man) with strong opinions but that doesn't mean your opinions are worth anything.

Well quite.

 

[Pickman's model]

Well quite.

it's like where i used to do a pub quiz, there was a mensa team which would always lose. on more one occasion, when i beat them, i pointed out to them you can have an iq of 190 or whatnot but if you don't know the answers you won't win.

 

[DotCommunist]

Why would he go with grace? He's being booted for making snide insinuations in the house, he's blatantly going to take the opportunity to plunge the knife in.

true enough, foolish of me to expect him to 'be the bigger man'. Not how the game is played I spose

 

[ViolentPanda]

i assume most people would accept that the problems wrought by international capitalism are not going to be easily tackled by Corbo's next government.

But it's reasonable to assume that Corbo could stop attacking the disabled poor (for example), and could take various industries into common ownership to everyone's benefit. He could do worse than begin with the newspaper press followed by transportation IMO.

But i can't see full communism making it through the current shadow cabinet.

Lets be blunt here - if Corbyn's project looks like getting a sniff of power, most of the so-called "moderates" in the current shadow cabinet would sign up for full communism!

 

[redcogs]

kudos for beating a mensa team Pickers.. you went to a grammar school?

 

[Pickman's model]

kudos for beating a mensa team Pickers.. you went to a grammar school?

in this case i went to a pub for the quiz

 

[redcogs]

For the record, this contributer failed the 11+, Quite obvious i suppose.

A droll response BTW

 

[Fingers]

Kevan Jones has resigned. The Blairites are purging themselves

 

[Pickman's model]

For the record, this contributer failed the 11+, Quite obvious i suppose.

A droll response BTW

back in the early 90s i met a few people who made a living off the quiz machines - i remember quizvaders was a particular favourite of mine, could take a score out of it without any difficulty. you pick up quite a bit of general knowledge from that sort of thing.

 

[Pickman's model]

Kevan Jones has resigned. The Blairites are purging themselves

the shits have the shits

 

[Fingers]

back in the early 90s i met a few people who made a living off the quiz machines - i remember quizvaders was a particular favourite of mine, could take a score out of it without any difficulty. you pick up quite a bit of general knowledge from that sort of thing.

Back in the 90s my mate used to work as a fruit machine engineer and new all the tips and tricks to make them pay out. The fruities payed for many a night out.

 

[Pickman's model]

Back in the 90s my mate used to work as a fruit machine engineer and new all the tips and tricks to make them pay out. The fruities payed for many a night out.

ah - there's an app for that too - watch some muppet stick all his money in the machine and then when he's left brassick put in a few quid and walk away with his money.

 

[Mr Moose]

On the radio about an hour ago (R4 I think) there was an item about how sexist it was that Maria Eagle has been booted. According to the person being interviewed it was "a shame a strong woman with strong opinions" was being denied a voice. Presumably this means that her replacement Emily Thornberry is a weak woman with weak opinions. They didn't say that though.

The 'sexism' thing is ridiculous. The only thing that should count at this level of power and influence is if they are any good at the job. It's Maria Eagle's appointment in the first place that's eyebrow raising.

 

[existentialist]

The 'sexism' thing is ridiculous. The only thing that should count at this level of power and influence is if they are any good at the job. It's Maria Eagle's appointment in the first place that's eyebrow raising.

It's the blatantness of the misuse of the whole sexism thing that appals me. These people are casting around for any possible shit they can throw at him, and if that means denigrating the progress made in addressing sexist attitudes (such as it is), that's fine by them - so long as it's some mud they can fling.

It's as if they're desperate: no price to pay is too high for bringing Corbyn down.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

Kevan Jones has resigned. The Blairites are purging themselves

I reckon that they actually wanted a purge to happen so they could then whinge and whine to the press about what an awful dictator Corbyn is. Watching them now purge themselves, having not got what they wanted, is hilarious.

 

[redcogs]

It is being said that Seamas Milne's advisory role is upsetting the Blairite shits.

Well done Seamas, 'may the road rise with you'.

 

[gosub]

It is being said that Seamas Milne's advisory role is upsetting the Blairite shits.

Well done Seamas, 'may the road rise with you'.

But it isn't. A reshuffle that generates the political headlines for 4 days, swamping the Labour mayoral launch, some stuff on transport and Tory wobbles on EUrope. Whilst at the same time further worsening the relationship between Labour and the media

 

[redcogs]

Jezz understands that there is no alternative to playing the long game with over four years before an election (unless an explosion of class struggle ousts these fuckers earlier!). Getting the right wingers on their way now is an excellent strategy. Buys a bit of thinking organising and breathing space for the run up to 2020.

Its quite encouraging really.