Corbyn & Cabinet in the Media

[Pickman's model]

It is being said that Seamas Milne's advisory role is upsetting the Blairite shits.

Well done Seamas, 'may the road rise with you'.

any relation of seumas milne?

 

[redcogs]

i'm not his mum. Or his aunt.

 

[Dogsauce]

back in the early 90s i met a few people who made a living off the quiz machines - i remember quizvaders was a particular favourite of mine, could take a score out of it without any difficulty. you pick up quite a bit of general knowledge from that sort of thing.

My mate's brother and his sixth-form mates used to be masters of the Crystal Maze machine, an evening out for them would commence with wandering over the fields to Gordano services, emptying out the machine, scoring some weed with the winnings and smoking it on the roof of the rec ground changing rooms. Heroes.

 

[DotCommunist]

But it isn't. A reshuffle that generates the political headlines for 4 days, swamping the Labour mayoral launch, some stuff on transport and Tory wobbles on EUrope. Whilst at the same time further worsening the relationship between Labour and the media

do you seriously think if he plays ball and smiles and does interviews and oh so perfectly timed leaks etc etc the press attitude will change?

 

[redcogs]

any relation of seumas milne?

If i was you could've expected a better stab at spelling his first name accurately..

 

[gosub]

do you seriously think if he plays ball and smiles and does interviews and oh so perfectly timed leaks etc etc the press attitude will change?

There's playing ball and playing ball. It wasn't just 'oh dear too late for the print editions! tee hee.' The journos that had to sit outside in Janurary for a day and half feeding off each other for lack of anything else to say,(that in it self is something you don't want) won't be the 100k+ correspondents. It'll be NUJ affiliated juniors, that probably can't afford to live in London, that for two days in a row had to dice with getting copy in ASAP (internet news never stops) and getting the last train to wherever they can afford to get a taxi home from.

What makes you think media relations can't get any worse?


The only way this strategy makes sense is if he isn't planning on being there for the next election. Next leader not behaving like a shit, gets better press shock horror.

 

[DotCommunist]

What makes you think media relations can't get any worse?

short of calling him a nonce what else have they got? its been everything including the kitchen sink already

 

[gosub]

short of calling him a nonce what else have they got? its been everything including the kitchen sink already

He calls a press conference on public transport (where thats all will he talk about) . I look to forward to knowing what his favorite colour steam train is and what he thinks is the worst public transport sandwich. other questions not being forthcoming.

 

[Fingers]

There's playing ball and playing ball. It wasn't just 'oh dear too late for the print editions! tee hee.' The journos that had to sit outside in Janurary for a day and half feeding off each other for lack of anything else to say,(that in it self is something you don't want) won't be the 100k+ correspondents. It'll be NUJ affiliated juniors, that probably can't afford to live in London, that for two days in a row had to dice with getting copy in ASAP (internet news never stops) and getting the last train to wherever they can afford to get a taxi home from.

They could have done something else for two days like report on the Jr Doctors crisis or the Housing Bill.

 

[Fingers]

He calls a press conference on public transport (where thats all will he talk about) . I look to forward to knowing what his favorite colour steam train is and what he thinks is the worst public transport sandwich. other questions not being forthcoming.

Man hole covers is his thing, steam trains as so outdated.

 

[gosub]

Man hole covers is his thing, steam trains as so outdated.

Which is why you'd ask it.

 

[DotCommunist]

He calls a press conference on public transport (where thats all will he talk about) . I look to forward to knowing what his favorite colour steam train is and what he thinks is the worst public transport sandwich. other questions not being forthcoming.

because up and till now he's been treated with seriousness. Right. He was 'shopped in wearing a court jesters hat in a mainstream newspaper days after his ascension to the iron throne ffs.

 

[killer b]

There's playing ball and playing ball. It wasn't just 'oh dear too late for the print editions! tee hee.' The journos that had to sit outside in Janurary for a day and half feeding off each other for lack of anything else to say,(that in it self is something you don't want) won't be the 100k+ correspondents. It'll be NUJ affiliated juniors, that probably can't afford to live in London, that for two days in a row had to dice with getting copy in ASAP (internet news never stops) and getting the last train to wherever they can afford to get a taxi home from.

What makes you think media relations can't get any worse?


The only way this strategy makes sense is if he isn't planning on being there for the next election. Next leader not behaving like a shit, gets better press shock horror.

why do you think it took so long?

 

[gosub]

because up and till now he's been treated with seriousness. Right. He was 'shopped in wearing a court jesters hat in a mainstream newspaper days after his ascension to the iron throne ffs.

Contempt is hearing someones ideas and then trashing them. Beyond contempt is not even bothering to hear them. In the example I just gave, if the stories ended up:
Jeremy Corbyn today gave a press conference, soully on the subject of public transport. We now know he likes green steam trains and advises against having a prawn sandwich at Crewe.

It would be worse than things are now. And they wouldn't have resorted to calling him a nonce/ falsehoods or distorion

 

[gosub]

why do you think it took so long?

coz it was announced before any prep was done, and he ended up with a mutiny on his hands

 

[DotCommunist]

so having his serious proposals ignored and have the piss taken plus distortion smears etc etc?

this is already happening.

 

[killer b]

coz it was announced before any prep was done, and he ended up with a mutiny on his hands

When was it announced?

 

[gosub]

When was it announced?

he confirmed it was going to happen a couple of days prior (after the warring sides of Labour spent Xmas giving copy to journos) and told journos it was happening when they were kicked out into the cold 1day 10hours 10 mins before it was officially (got some most post to fill as a result of today) concluded

 

[Kaka Tim]

nobody outside the bubble gives a fuck about the reshuffle and it will be completely forgotten within a few months. Its just that every whinge by the sour grapes brigade is enthusiastically trumpeted by likes of the gaurdian.

 

[DotCommunist]

they were kicked out into the cold

 

[killer b]

he confirmed it was going to happen a couple of days prior (after the warring sides of Labour spent Xmas giving copy to journos) and told journos it was happening when they were kicked out into the cold 1day 10hours 10 mins before it was officially (got some most post to fill as a result of today) concluded

Maybe you should outline the preparation you think he could have carried out ahead of starting meeting with MPs?

 

[gosub]

Having learnt the lesson of them eavesdropping at the door when they didn't Angela Eagle's joint role -fuck we haven't got enough women

 

[redcogs]

No savvy politico could afford to ignore the press, and Corby and his advisers ain't ignoring the gutter jackals, they are simply recognising their malign role. In understanding one of their main enemies and dealing with one likely scenario at an early stage, they are hoping to avoid damaging resignations in the few months prior to an election, when Labour's potential needs to be at the maximum setting.

Naturally there are no guarantees that such a strategy will succeed - but avoiding being seen as a divided organisation at the most crucial moment in the electoral cycle is essential.

Flush out the Blairite poison now is my slogan.

(oh, and i almost forgot, fuck the free market media scum)

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

nobody outside the bubble gives a fuck about the reshuffle and it will be completely forgotten within a few months. Its just that every whinge by the sour grapes brigade is enthusiastically trumpeted by likes of the gaurdian.

It'll be forgotten by next week. I mean fuck, I'm paying attention to this shit and I can't even remember the name of that bloke that got the sack.

 

[gosub]

It'll be forgotten by next week. I mean fuck, I'm paying attention to this shit and I can't even remember the name of that bloke that got the sack.

Names will be , shambles won't

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Names will be , shambles won't

People paying attention will remember an entirely manufactured controversy, and people who are not paying attention won't even recall a reshuffle happening.

 

[DotCommunist]

I mean we have a concrete example of someone nowhere near as labour left as corbyn courting the press and getting thoroughly fucked over again and again. Although Ed milliband has only himself to blame for the menhir of pledges. Spinal Tap territory, bound to get the piss ripped.

but in view of that, why would corbyn want to engage with a media that is actively hostile?

 

[brogdale]

Kevan Jones has resigned. The Blairites are purging themselves

The whole of point of hiring a Stalinist?

 

[killer b]

A friend on facebook just drew my attention to this, speaking of shambolically administered purges.

'Show trials' to axe MPs disloyal to Blair

 

[shygirl]

Cat Smith just handled an interview with Newman on C4 brilliantly. Newman was almost hysterical in her swiping at Corbyn, talk about daggers out. Cat remained calm, coherent and convincing in her responses, well done to her.