Corbyn & Cabinet in the Media

[littlebabyjesus]

LRB · Paul Myerscough · Corbyn in the Media

Good article, and bang on about both The Guardian and the BBC, I think. I agree that he needs to use alternative media spaces. But direct talks?

I would suggest that he also has to be careful about calling out BBC bias.

 

[DotCommunist]

Check this out for a whole load of shitty weirdness.

he's got Fidels stogie again!

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Also surely, the thing with JC is that it's not all about him. He isn't a populist a la Correa or Chavez or even Galloway.

 

[killer b]

Good article, and bang on about both The Guardian and the BBC, I think. I agree that he needs to use alternative media spaces. But direct talks?

why not?

 

[DownwardDog]

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/op...out-Battling-Hostile-Media-20151011-0009.html
Why not produce an online show similar to Russell Brand’s TREWS, but in Corbyn’s own style?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

why not?

He'd be ridiculed for it, and he's probably not charismatic enough to pull it off anyway.

BBC bias - setting acceptable discourse between Tory and New Labour - is going to take time to change. It's already changing, though, with the makeup of Question Time for instance.

 

[killer b]

He'd be ridiculed for it,

So what? They'll ridicule him whatever he does.

and he's probably not charismatic enough to pull it off anyway.

He wasn't charismatic enough to win the Labour leadership election either.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Would it be as good as Webcameron?

 

[killer b]

Corbyn won the Labour leadership on the back of a social media campaign. He completely trounced the opposition, despite the entire party & established media lining up against him.

While it remains to be seen how effectively that can be applied to the wider electorate, what did become clear throughout the leadership campaign was that Corbyn is a very effective communicator when he's able to get heard. He isn't going to get a fair hearing from the establishment media, so he needs to find ways of bypassing it.

I don't like the idea of fireside chats or some trews type show, but some way of speaking directly to the electorate is necessary rather than desirable, if he wants to get anywhere. Comparing something that doesn't exist yet to hamfisted previous attempts at it seems a bit premature.

 

[DotCommunist]

he should do a show on 1xtra with Tim Westwood

'Now drop the Bomb!'

'Tim, we've been over this...'

 

[gimesumtruf]

Much as the kids like granddad they won't take the same 25 pence spends he gives them every week

 

[killer b]

what?

 

[DotCommunist]

the ardvaark mates silently by moonlight

 

[killer b]

Incidentally, it'd be useful if someone could come up with a way of referring to the establishment media that doesn't make you sound like a swivel-eyed conspiracy nut. MSM/mainstream media is an immediate red flag for jew hating, and everything else I've come across thus far has a similar ring to it...

 

[Santino]

the ardvaark mates silently by moonlight

Crazy chord transition in that, moves from F#dim into C7, then modulates up a tone (the bass remains in D throughout) and plonks down in Gaug9. Ruddy must have been smoking something strong that day in the studio.

 

[DotCommunist]

Incidentally, it'd be useful if someone could come up with a way of referring to the establishment media that doesn't make you sound like a swivel-eyed conspiracy nut. MSM/mainstream media is an immediate red flag for jew hating, and everything else I've come across thus far has a similar ring to it...

I just go with 'the right wing press'

cos thats more or less all of em

 

[killer b]

I just go with 'the right wing press'

cos thats more or less all of em

But then you end up in a row about the gruan and the BBC...

 

[J Ed]

What's wrong with just 'traditional media'?

 

[killer b]

'cause most of them are operating increasingly in the non-trad arena, I suppose.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

But then you end up in a row about the gruan and the BBC...

'mainstream media' is at least accurate.

Isn't it as likely to make people think of Chomsky as Icke?

 

[LDC]

Capitalist media?

A friend was involved in a court case many moons ago, and was asked by the judge if he'd seen the press coverage of the relevant event. "I don't read the capitalist press" friend replied. "What about the television?" asked the judge. "The same, but more so" replied friend. He also had a broken TV in his flat with 'LIES LIES LIES' written all over the screen.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

He also had a broken TV in his flat with 'LIES LIES LIES' written all over the screen.

Doesn't sound insane at all.

 

[killer b]

 

[DotCommunist]

What's wrong with just 'traditional media'?

maybe I overthink things but for me the word 'traditional' carries a heavy implication of validity, continuity and trustworthiness.

 

[Santino]

'Traditional media' sounds like paint and canvas, watercolours, marble, bronze, that kind of stuff.

 

[killer b]

'mainstream media' is at least accurate.

Isn't it as likely to make people think of Chomsky as Icke?

I suspect the ideas of Icke and his ilk are somewhat more prominent in the consciousness of the wider population than the ideas of Chomsky.

 

[DaveCinzano]

What's the current ETA for someone suggesting Chunky Mark as the new Number 10 Communications Director?

 

[J Ed]

I suspect the ideas of Icke and his ilk are somewhat more prominent in the consciousness of the wider population than the ideas of Chomsky.

Chomsky is pretty shit in goal

 

[DaveCinzano]

Chomsky is pretty shit in goal

He's more of an upfront playmaker

 

[nino_savatte]

Check this out for a whole load of shitty weirdness.

The initial camerawork is pretty sloppy. Can't they zoom out properly?