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Blair spouting once again in media - attacking Corbyn and arguing for more ME Military intervention:

Tony Blair: Corbyn government would be a dangerous experiment

He is on borrowed time, hopefully - Chilcot due on 6th July? Even if Chilcot criticisms of him are relatively mild it should be excuse enough to allow the expulsion the warmongering, dictator defending, oligarch apologist greedhead from Labour if they have the spine.
 
Jeremiah18.17 said:
Blair spouting once again in media - attacking Corbyn and arguing for more ME Military intervention:

Tony Blair: Corbyn government would be a dangerous experiment

He is on borrowed time, hopefully - Chilcot due on 6th July? Even if Chilcot criticisms of him are relatively mild it should be excuse enough to allow the expulsion the warmongering, dictator defending, oligarch apologist greedhead from Labour if they have the spine.
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Hopefully so. Interesting that he's been so vocal these last few weeks though - he must have seen the Chilcot report and presumably the criticism is spread wide and thin.
 
I would like to be a party leader. I'm handsome, i can reach out, I'm pro-active, I love a bit of synergy and I'll wear a suit. Sadly, like Corbyn, I'm also completely the wrong fucking bloke for the job.

Labour should elect Charlotte Church, she'd be the business.
 
I watched the whole of that doc now, pretty dull tbh. The only real bit of insight it gives you is how little insight Corbyn and his crew seem to have about the predicament they're in. Slightly surprised about that.
 
gawkrodger said:
yeh, he comes across as a likeable old man, completely out of his depth
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what "depth" ? How is it he "out of it " ? Is the criteria you're using linked to the smooth, rehearsed performances / approach of entitled, professional politicians as you see them ? What are you looking for in an LP leader, so you'd not consider them "out of their depth" ?

And wtf has his age got to with it ??
 
cantsin said:
what "depth" ? How is it he "out of it " ? Is the criteria you're using linked to the smooth, rehearsed performances / approach of entitled, professional politicians as you see them ?
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In what way is JC not a professional politician? He's been an elected politician for the past 42 years. He's not smooth or rehearsed, I'll grant you.
 
If that doc is a true picture of the Corbyn leadership team at work, then they are out of their depth - simply not equipped to deal with the task they're faced with. That doesn't mean they need to be shinier, more duplicitous or more professional: it just means that they need to have a clue. Which they don't currently seem to, on that evidence.
 
killer b said:
If that doc is a true picture of the Corbyn leadership team at work, then they are out of their depth - simply not equipped to deal with the task they're faced with. That doesn't mean they need to be shinier, more duplicitous or more professional: it just means that they need to have a clue. Which they don't currently seem to, on that evidence.
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I hear this a lot, but it's so vague, still don't know what it means, do you want to flesh it out at all, provide some detail , any detail, examples etc ?
 
Well, let's just take one thing from the doc, that ridiculous staged phone call with milne about Jonathan freedland: someone actually thought it was a good idea to do that in front of a documentary crew. And he then actually did it. And no-one stopped him. That's three levels of clueless on just one event.

The weird paranoid complaint about one in three lines of attack being leaked to the tories, that weird school parliament PMQs role play... it was all embarrassing. Not unpolished, not refreshingly non-political: just clueless. Out of their depth.
 
killer b said:
. Not unpolished,
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you sure? I just watched it. Yes I get what you mean though. You see it and think 'these people are going to get eaten alive'
but lab held in the recent elections. Perhaps the lack of polish is paying off. Fucked if I know my solutions are always edged and done in the dark if I was there but I don't think the 'on the fly' nature of the operation looks that bad.
 
OK, they're unpolished too. But not just unpolished: there seems to be a sense of wide eyed innocence among them, as if they don't really know what they're up against. The bits where they're complaining about their monstering by the press and within the party, they actually seem confused about why it's happening.

I don't think you could expect any operation to have an answer to the sheer weight of the attack on Corbyn's leadership, but I did think they at least knew what was happening to them - it doesn't look like they do. At least on the evidence of this doc anyway.
 
killer b said:
OK, they're unpolished too. But not just unpolished: there seems to be a sense of wide eyed innocence among them, as if they don't really know what they're up against. The bits where they're complaining about their monstering by the press and within the party, they actually seem confused about why it's happening.

I don't think you could expect any operation to have an answer to the sheer weight of the attack on Corbyn's leadership, but I did think they at least knew what was happening to them - it doesn't look like they do. At least on the evidence of this doc anyway.
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Isn't this just a re-jig of the tired old "he's unelectable" mantra we kept hearing a few months back? No criticism of policy, and no acknowledgement of the fact he keeps getting... um... elected. It's all just about presentation.
 
Fucksake. You've just invented something for me to think in the first sentence, then argued against that for the rest of the post.
 
killer b said:
If that doc is a true picture of the Corbyn leadership team at work, then they are out of their depth - simply not equipped to deal with the task they're faced with. That doesn't mean they need to be shinier, more duplicitous or more professional: it just means that they need to have a clue. Which they don't currently seem to, on that evidence.
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The problem with this is that "having a clue" will actually mean they will need to be shinier, more duplicitous and more "professional". The one criticism I think is valid is the one about leaking PMQs tactics, if for no other reason than they should have realized that the answer to that is to have Corbyn do it by himself, or at least pick from a pool of ideas so wide that Cameron cannot crib them all.
 
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