butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Do it now. Not when you've lost.
Corbyn & Cabinet in the Media
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ruffneck23
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to be honest, when i first read this, my reaction was hostile, but after re reading it, i think youre right, and if im over for my next local meeting i will try my hardest to attend and do just that, im not even taking the piss , cheers
and to you killer b
, seriouslybutchersapron
Bring back hanging
There must be people like you organising surely?
ruffneck23
front left
hopefully, and on here too
ruffneck23
front left
could we , between the lot of us organise something ? i would really like to get involved , again not taking the piss
pm me and lets see what we can do
pm me and lets see what we can do
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Go for it - have to count me out though. I hate labour and corbyn. But you have to do something.could we , between the lot of us organise something ? i would really like to get involved , again not taking the piss
pm me and lets see what we can do
ruffneck23
front left
may i ask , and not trying to be rude or snidey, are you ?
ruffneck23
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ah you just answered me
ruffneck23
front left
but what realistically is our best hope ? no one seems to want the lib dems or the greens , that justs leave ukip , arent labour the best hope of getting the tories out, which hopefully we agree are the common enemy ?
id vote for anarchy anyway lol, yes i know what i did there
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Nah, labour is as much the enemy to me as the tories. That doesn't mean i think that you or anyone who joined in the recent burst are enemies in any way. You're comrades - it's just that the path you've chosen to fight on is going and can go nowhere. Whereas tories are never and can never be comrades. Not whilst being tories. But you can be whilst being labour,but what realistically is our best hope ? no one seems to want the lib dems or the greens , that just leave ukip , arent labour the best hope of getting the tories out, which hopefully we agree are the common enemy ?
id vote for anarchy anyway lol, yes i know what i did there
ruffneck23
front left
I can actually see where you're coming from and agree, I just find it all a bit hopeless , in my 45 years on this plane, its the most depressing political landscape I've seen, and thought , imo ,correctly, that the thatcher years were grim 
id hang em all if the revolution comes, but then that also means we all have to get off our arses
id hang em all if the revolution comes, but then that also means we all have to get off our arsesIt's not really something that can be done online - I think the idea that it can be is one of the reasons this new influx of members to the Labour party have been so ineffective.could we , between the lot of us organise something ? i would really like to get involved , again not taking the piss
pm me and lets see what we can do
FWIW I don't think it's entirely the new members' fault: essentially what's happened is thousands of people with little or no experience of party political activity have joined the party. The avenues that are available for them to organise are not obvious, and the time servers, comfortable in their own positions (and generally to the right of the leadership), generally aren't welcoming them with open arms and showing them the ropes.
Of course, where an energetic left winger has gone out of the way to get them involved with campaigning, it has reaped dividends: a mate of mine stood in a safe tory seat in the recent council elections, worked a proper campaign with a load of new members and came within a hundred votes of taking the seat. They'd got nowhere there previously.
fiannanahalba
Feel the Love
Ungrateful Jocks. After all we've done for them.
I was not saying that! 
Do kindly piss off.
It's just that from down here, Corbyn looks as if nothing he can do will change anything re the SNP's popularity up there.
In other words, that report was unsurprising. Exactly as I said.
Do kindly piss off.It's just that from down here, Corbyn looks as if nothing he can do will change anything re the SNP's popularity up there.
In other words, that report was unsurprising. Exactly as I said.
fiannanahalba
Feel the Love
Jeremy likes the Jocks. It's just a matter
of time before the Jocks see that the Snp are just natsy nationalists and tartan tories and come back to Labour with Jeremy.
of time before the Jocks see that the Snp are just natsy nationalists and tartan tories and come back to Labour with Jeremy.
I've leave that to them, but as an outsider I'm not that confident that the SNP will decline in popularity any time soon.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
from my - admittedly limited in number - converstations with ex-Labour and now SNP voters, not all by any stretch of whom are pro-independence, the broad concensus is that Labour will probably recover to some degree, but that it would take a political earthquake along the lines of the entire SNP cabinet being found in bed with a dead 9 year old to break the SNP's political primacy.
maybe half a dozen seats at Westminster in 2020, fuelled far more by a attitude that complete SNP dominance isn't healthy than by any great love of Labour, but in general the view was that while the SNP come across as optomistic, competant, and their candistes being the best people they could find, Labour haven't a hope in hell of recovering even half the Scottish seats they held in 2010-2015
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'The Jocks'.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
what timespan do you envisage?
It's piss poor whatever it is.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Say the word 'Israel', Jeremy!
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
not sure how much pretence that would require
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
dress up as a woman as well so he can be sexist at you
J Ed
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Then he can get an article on the graunid about how brutally sexist the left is because Corbyn didn't make him Shadow Chancellor
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