Characterising UKIP?

[Lo Siento.]

Nigel Farage shows his fox hunting support at Boxing Day chase - but 80% of Brits back the ban

Ha, look at the expressions, you can tell the traditional Tory set don't think much of him, can't you?

 

[Bernie Gunther]

I was thinking more in terms of him using Farage to push the agenda his way.

 

[brogdale]

I was thinking more in terms of him using Farage to push the agenda his way.

For sure.

 

[Dogsauce]

Osborne was 'Man of the Year' last year, laughably. It's meaningless, just a troll to get people talking about the newspaper.

 

[youngian]

Kippers have already shown they're devoid of any zero creative talent in many areas (leaflet design and spoof songs for eg). Now they're having a stab at humour to sock it to those lefty comics like Al Murray

 

[ddraig]

which area is that from?

 

[brogdale]

Respect to the good burghers of Penarth...

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/ukip-leader-left-egg-face-8471624

 

[teqniq]

 

[ddraig]

quite lol

 

[redsquirrel]

Respect to the good burghers of Penarth...

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/ukip-leader-left-egg-face-8471624

That's about a billion times better than a lot of the anti-UKIP "humour" shite that you see.

 

[J Ed]

UKIP75's favourite Tim Aker has quit as policy chief.

 

[Dogsauce]

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I am struggling to come to terms with the rolled up sleeves and fingerless gloves combo. What does that actually mean?

 

[ddraig]

that's his inner rebel being displayed
also a chain and top shirt button not done up!

 

[Maurice Picarda]

Kippers have already shown they're devoid of any zero creative talent in many areas (leaflet design and spoof songs for eg). Now they're having a stab at humour to sock it to those lefty comics like Al Murray

Ouch. That's not only painfully shit, it's also presumably, from the "recognizing", been plagiarised from a painfully shit Yank original.

 

[gareth taylor]

Ouch. That's not only painfully shit, it's also presumably, from the "recognizing", been plagiarised from a painfully shit Yank original.

a ukip tory government is way forward

 

[Maurice Picarda]

a ukip tory government is way forward

Cheers for that. That Dulwich Hamlet forum was a great idea, wasn't it?

 

[gareth taylor]

Cheers for that. That Dulwich Hamlet forum was a great idea, wasn't it?

excuse me ?

 

[Maurice Picarda]

excuse me ?

Yes, you are excused.

 

[gareth taylor]

Yes, you are excused.

you have are sort of voter who supports labour goes on this marches and thinks that your great wonderful person,

 

[butchersapron]

Cheers for that. That Dulwich Hamlet forum was a great idea, wasn't it?

You're the non-cuckoo here? Really?

 

[Maurice Picarda]

http://www.petplace.com/cats/a-little-girl-has-free-kittens/page1.aspx

 

[gosub]

 

[ViolentPanda]

a ukip tory government is way forward

Forward unto death, maybe. Forward unto a stronger economy, though? That's about as likely as an incontinent tramp not pissing themselves.

 

[ViolentPanda]

you have are sort of voter who supports labour goes on this marches and thinks that your great wonderful person,

And you're obviously the sort of minimally-intelligent politically-ignorant gonif who thinks that anyone who doesn't support the right wing is obviously left wing.
In other words, you're a dolt.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/1...t-accept-a-jewish-prime-minister-poll-reveals

Looks like they characterise themselves.

 

[DotCommunist]

UKIP75's favourite Tim Aker has quit as policy chief.

thats right, Jon Galt the clear browed aryan rapist played for heroism by a sociopathic author

 

[butchersapron]

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/1...t-accept-a-jewish-prime-minister-poll-reveals

Looks like they characterise themselves.

I reckon you should read the actual article that JC piece is ripped from:

Yet they appear to exist irrespective of anything the parties themselves have said and done. While UKIP has had the odd problem with a candidate or two in this respect, and there are doubts about some of its allies in the European Parliament, there is nothing whatsoever in UKIP’s rhetoric or policies that could conceivably be labelled anti-Semitic.

While political leaders clearly have some responsibility for those who stand as candidates for, or who simply join, their parties, they can hardly be held responsible for the opinions, however controversial or unsavoury, of those who choose to vote for them.

Whether leaders should distance themselves from such people by asserting that they don’t want their votes is another matter: in UKIP’s case they constitute only a small minority at a time when the party is recruiting way beyond those who see themselves as right-wingers.

Or are you saying that UKIP as a party formally and proudly characterises themselves as anti-semitic?

More generally, this has been one of the holes this debate has fallen into - the failure to make (i.e actually look at what motivates,what interests they represent, how they organise, with who, where have they come from etc - actually doing some work on that) the different levels across the UKIP milieu. That's voters/supporters/members/activists/national leadership/actual leadership. And the result has been the sort of mess we've often see where an individual loon says something daft and this is then supposed to flatly characterise the whole of the above. Not really much good to anyone that.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Individual loons such as leader Farage talking about a "fifth column" of Muslims against whom 'we' must defend 'our' "Judeo-Christian values". A loon who has previously stirred against anyone not speaking English, Romanies and Romanians. A loon who reportedly speaks of 'nignogs' in private.

Individual loons such as one of the party's two MPs Reckless advocating the 'repatriation' of migrants.

Two of the party's three senior people. Loons.

UKIP does not formally characterise itself as racist. But its leaders are racist. Do you not see parallels here with the newly 'non-racist' FN in France? How are UKIP different from the FN or the Party for Freedom in Holland, or the other more openly racist extreme right parties in Eastern Europe with whom they are aligned?

They are not formally white supremacist like the BNP, but they are racists. Any attempt to characterise UKIP without acknowledging that is going to fail, as any attempt to characterise the FN in France without addressing its racism will fail.

 

[butchersapron]

There we have a good example of what I was talking about.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Show me facts in there that are wrong. Tell me Farage and Reckless are not racist. Tell me they are not two of the party's three leading people. Tell me the difference between UKIP and the FN. Would you berate those in France who point out the racism of the FN?

Several high-profile members have now left UKIP citing the racist direction Farage has taken as the reason for them leaving.

In a way, they have already won. The next election will be fought over an agenda that has largely been set by them. Even nastier immigration policies than we already have will be the result. We see on this very page a typical example - a person in North Wales blaming unemployment on immigration.