Characterising UKIP?

[SikhWarrioR]

Led by a woman, now.
Labour & LDs are well out of step.

The lib-democrats not so much "out of step" but more "irrelevant" to me and most other people now, See you in another 100 years lib-democrats. As for labour howabout being an effective opposition that so many people want and need rather than trying to keep blair's toxic legacy alive

 

[redsquirrel]

I was just looking back through some old threads and found this post from back in 2009.

People aren't daft - thery know full well that there's no chance of a BNP fascist govt being elected, they also know full well the labour party took them for mugs (fuck 'em, where can they go?) and also that the other mainstream parties are simply more of the same shit. This is why the BNP vote is still soft vote right now (but may not be for much longer) because it's essentially a negative angry protest vote - but once it becomes normalised (as is becoming more and more common) we may well (in fcat, we will) see positive votes based on identification with the BNP rather than rejection of other parties.

Obviously the BNP have gone but it got me wondering to to what extent the UKIP vote is still soft and what extent there's a positive UKIP vote.

For my part I think the process outlined above is well underway and a significant proportion of the UKIP is hard. Despite the predictions of some the UKIP vote has stood up well post-referendum, despite the leadership struggles, they are still polling ahead of the LibDems.

(Wasn't sure if this discussion should be split off to a new thread or just stuck here?)

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Paul Nuttals was photo'd with the lead Stockport area for the EDL yesterday. Both looked very cheery and chummy. At least they're not r****t though. That's the last thing we must ever say.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Rumours that Mr Nuttall, despite claiming otherwise still hasn't actually moved into 65 Oxford Street.


Lying bastards gonna lie.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Ukip MEP ordered to pay £160,000 to Labour MPs she accused of covering up child abuse

The High Court ruled that Jane Collins must pay £54,000 each in compensation to Rotheram MPs Kevin Barron, John Healey and Sarah Champion, plus costs of £120,000.

The case refers to allegations Ms Collins made at the 2014 Ukip conference that the town’s MPs had known about child abuse in the area before it was exposed by the Jay Review.

 

[Dogsauce]

Ukip MEP ordered to pay £160,000 to Labour MPs she accused of covering up child abuse

But Ms Collins had insisted her speech was political and expressed an opinion rather than an allegation of fact.

A quality defence there, one from the Trump playbook.

 

[brogdale]

Obviously on the more 'fruit-cake' wing of the party....





Source :

Worth reading the thread under that post for the shits & giggles.

 

[brogdale]

Even their own people don't like how it is now being characterised:-

 

[brogdale]

St. Pauli of Mason reads UKIP the last rites.

Ukip’s broad support has been composed of perfectly ordinary people. The 3.8 million who voted for the party in 2015 felt excluded from mainstream politics; dumped upon by their (often Labour) local council, they saw industrial jobs destroyed by globalisation and, for some, their town disrupted by rapid inward migration. “Left behind” is the phrase most used to sum this up.

It is possible to feel all of the above and not be racist. Yet Ukip – from the very beginning – played a racist descant on top of this tune of justifiable grievances. Although always subtle and expressed within the law, this created the environment for the hardcore fascists and Ulster loyalists to amplify the message with hate speech and fake imagery.