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Chancellor Rachel Reeves: Her Time Is Up!

brogdale said:
I really hope that the leaks about scrapping the £2 bus fare cap (after the present arrangements expire at the end of December) are inaccurate or expectation management. Such a move would obviously hit the poorest workers/carers by increasing the cost of a greener form of transport for what must be minuscule potential 'savings' to the public purse.
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That would clearly be a burden placed on working class people (I know it's just 'working people's now but let's call a spade a spade) but then so is the stealth income tax rise of refusing to remove the personal allowance freeze.
 
Richard Murphy has unpleasant predictions regarding the proposed employer NI increase and what it will mean for the NHS:

 
weltweit said:
So a care worker and a government minister .. both are working people!

But someone who is self employed or a small business owner might not be working people..
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Their clown show over the definition of ‘working people’ is a direct result of the refusal to use the phrase ‘working class’ and the political decision not to manage the state in it’s interests.

Phillipson was dreadful (and yes, she’s weird as fuck) on the question today. I’m also getting increasingly angry at people like her, Starmer and Co using their claimed working class background to justify Reeves hammering the working class proper.
 
Smokeandsteam said:
Their clown show over the definition of ‘working people’ is a direct result of the refusal to use the phrase ‘working class’ and the political decision not to manage the state in it’s interests.

Phillipson was dreadful (and yes, she’s weird as fuck) on the question today. I’m also getting increasingly angry at people like her, Starmer and Co using their claimed working class background to justify Reeves hammering the working class proper.
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It was a bizarre performance. She was given the role of doing the media rounds this morning. But kept saying 'ask Rachel next week'. She was the government's spokesperson. She should have been briefed on every issue she was going to be asked about. Not just pass the buck.
 
Petcha said:
It was a bizarre performance. She was given the role of doing the media rounds this morning. But kept saying 'ask Rachel next week'. She was the government's spokesperson. She should have been briefed on every issue she was going to be asked about. Not just pass the buck.
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If I was the, equally weird, Reeves I’d have seen it as the ultimate hospital pass from Phillipson…. ‘Ask Rachel’ seemed to be the answer to every question.
 
Smokeandsteam said:
Their clown show over the definition of ‘working people’ is a direct result of the refusal to use the phrase ‘working class’ and the political decision not to manage the state in it’s interests.

Phillipson was dreadful (and yes, she’s weird as fuck) on the question today. I’m also getting increasingly angry at people like her, Starmer and Co using their claimed working class background to justify Reeves hammering the working class proper.
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Agreed. Starmer also demonstrated his detachment from our class with his bollocks the other day about...

He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".
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Anyone with any real connect to working class families/communities will know that amongst many there is such an ingrained, cultural aversion to debt that, however limited, some savings "for a rainy day" is a very working class trait. The arrogance of these fuckers to claim that they're working class is just astounding.
 
And refusing to acknowledge the working class brings Reeves to the depths of using the same language as Osborne's strivers vrs skivers bigotry...

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Pensioner blues

Woke up this morning
ain’t got no winter fuel
Reeves she took it all away
now my house is getting cool
 
brogdale said:
And refusing to acknowledge the working class brings Reeves to the depths of using the same language as Osborne's strivers vrs skivers bigotry...

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Yes. For Labour there isn’t a working class. Class isn’t a category of experience or an economic relationship. ‘The working class’ is an empty phrase that they throw around and in doing so empty it of any substance, meaning and presumably (in their worldview) therefore rendered incapable of being possessive of any collective interests.

Instead they seem to have decided that the endless references to the working class background of its leading players provides some cover for its open derision and distaste for large sections of the actual working class.
 
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This working people thing, really gets me!

I work 37 hours a week, and there are 168 hours in total in a week. So I’m apparently defined by something I do approximately 22% of the time.

I sleep at least 50% more hours than I work. I’d like to be acknowledged by the chancellor as primarily a sleeping person
 
Elpenor said:
This working people thing, really gets me!

I work 37 hours a week, and there are 168 hours in total in a week. So I’m apparently defined by something I do approximately 22% of the time.

I sleep at least 50% more hours than I work. I’d like to be acknowledged by the chancellor as primarily a sleeping person
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Striving for more rest :thumbs:
 
Elpenor said:
This working people thing, really gets me!

I work 37 hours a week, and there are 168 hours in total in a week. So I’m apparently defined by something I do approximately 22% of the time.

I sleep at least 50% more hours than I work. I’d like to be acknowledged by the chancellor as primarily a sleeping person
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Back in the days when I was working from home I would take a nap in the afternoon sometimes and be thus working and sleeping at the same time
 
MickiQ said:
Back in the days when I was working from home I would take a nap in the afternoon sometimes and be thus working and sleeping at the same time
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Back in my working days. I spent many hours travelling by train on various assignments. I often had a snooze during long journeys.
 
Elpenor said:
Pensioner blues

Woke up this morning
ain’t got no winter fuel
Reeves she took it all away
now my house is getting cool
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Wife and I have decent pensions on top of the state pension, so the loss of the WFA doesn't hit us. A friend of mine, same age, just about manages on his state pension and a small private pension but he doesn't qualify for it either. Pretty sure it could be targeted at those in need.
 
not a trot said:
Wife and I have decent pensions on top of the state pension, so the loss of the WFA doesn't hit us. A friend of mine, same age, just about manages on his state pension and a small private pension but he doesn't qualify for it either. Pretty sure it could be targeted at those in need.
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Of course, there is one rock solid method for ensuring that those in most need get the benefit.
 
The dirty scumbags, theyve put bus fares up by fifty percent. People on the lowest wages who have to catch buses to go to work. I catch four buses a day. two there and two back, thats an extra 80 pounds a month for me. The filthy scumbags. Theyve hit pensioners and now the low paid.
 
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