Can't wait! OrangeFest is almost here!!

[Casually Red]

But it's not all doom and gloom . This year will be the first time ever they're not building one right beside Belfast city hospital . That's progress !!

This is it . Right at the gates of the hospital . That's the hospital car park on the left and the hospital the building with yellow bits right behind . The car park is relatively new...that's we're they used to traditionally have the bonfire . In the fucking car park right outside the hospital itself .

And this it toppling over a few years back . A towering inferno right outside a hospital . Must have been a lovely experience for catholic staff , patients visitors etc .



But finally this year they stopped . Wahey !!

 

[LiamO]

from this Now betting shop atrocity failings come to light - Investigations & Analysis - Northern Ireland from The Detail one

"In 2010 the families were informed by the Historic Enquiries Team (HET) that police had “disposed of” interview notes of two loyalists who’d been caught in possession of the Browning three months after the bookmaker’s attack.

Despite being caught red handed with the murder weapon, neither man faced any charges in connection with the bookmaker’s massacre.

It would later emerge that one was the son of an RUC man."


nothing to see here folks... move along there...

 

[Humberto]

I don't want to lead you and I'm happy to be schooled but is it legit to say the DUP are having a field day, at the expense of UK citizens. that is catholic Irish?

it looks like it.

Casually Red or anyone else

 

[DaveCinzano]

It would later emerge that one was the son of an RUC man.

Either a coincidence, or an ecumenical matter, but either ways totally innocent

 

[LiamO]

I don't want to lead you and I'm happy to be schooled but is it legit to say the DUP are having a field day, at the expense of UK citizens. that is catholic Irish?

it looks like it.

Casually Red or anyone else

Can you explain what you mean Humberto ?

 

[Humberto]

Can you explain what you mean Humberto ?

no i'll back off

Thought I had perspective then felt like a tit

Good luck though

 

[LiamO]

no i'll back off

Thought I had perspective then felt like a tit

Good luck though

You don't have to 'back off' Humberto . I just asked you to clarify what you meant. I'm sure you will get a polite response.

 

[Humberto]

OK Liam. I mean you live under British government as far as I can see. And If a massive community is treated like this, the DUP are allied with by the government, then we should be paying more attention to this huge injustice.

And the injustice is for others to document. But it seems, whats the word? viscious.

And if the Catholic community in NI live under British Govt, why the fuck are they not given a place, a voice?

 

[Casually Red]

I don't want to lead you and I'm happy to be schooled but is it legit to say the DUP are having a field day, at the expense of UK citizens. that is catholic Irish?

it looks like it.

Casually Red or anyone else

7 out of the ten DUP mps are Orange order members . All of them are loyalist bigots . They were elected directly with the assistance of the orange order and a host of loyalist paramilitary organisations who all organised voter registration drives and all the rest . Who mobilised the loyalist " street " directly behind the DUP . It's inconceivable to me that there won't be major concessions on loyalist parades under those circumstances . I'd be amazed if there wasn't . Their voters expect it .

At the minute there's no mention of it but I'd be very surprised if it wasn't in the pipeline . It's possible they've been bought off with cash I suppose but the loyalists will probably never get an opportunity like this again to force their agenda through . On the other hand there's the possibility even the Tories aren't that fucking stupid . And they may have told the DUP if the Tories fall they'll be dealing with Corbyn instead . And I doubt they'd want that .

I suppose we'll find out on the 12th what the real nature of the deal is .and whether it was just buckets of cash or buckets of sash .

 

[Humberto]

7 out of the ten DUP mps are Orange order members . All of them are loyalist bigots . They were elected directly with the assistance of the orange order and a host of loyalist paramilitary organisations who all organised voter registration drives and all the rest . Who mobilised the loyalist " street " directly behind the DUP . It's inconceivable to me that there won't be major concessions on loyalist parades under those circumstances . I'd be amazed if there wasn't . Their voters expect it .

At the minute there's no mention of it but I'd be very surprised if it wasn't in the pipeline . It's possible they've been bought off with cash I suppose but the loyalists will probably never get an opportunity like this again to force their agenda through . On the other hand there's the possibility even the Tories aren't that fucking stupid . And they may have told the DUP if the Tories fall they'll be dealing with Corbyn instead . And I doubt they'd want that .

I suppose we'll find out on the 12th what the real nature of the deal is .and whether it was just buckets of cash or buckets of sash .

I read your post. But that should hang them. Which is to say carry on with it.

 

[Casually Red]

I read your post. But that should hang them. Which is to say carry on with it.

The more the uk public get a good look at these cunts the better as far as I'm concerned . The union will leave a nasty taste in quite a few mouths . The Tories being propped up by these scum won't exactly do the union or the DUP any favours in popular uk opinion .

 

[Casually Red]

While the BBC are oohing and ahhing over the UVFs smart uniforms in central belfast and pyres of hate are constructed all over the shop, it's pretty much traditional for almost half the city to fuck off accross the border to Donegal for the week to escape the madness . North and west Belfast virtually decamps , a mass exodus of Fenians who just want to have a pint in peace and not have too look at or listen to these wankers.

This guy from ardoyne does a pretty good job of explaining what Belfasts catholic population make of the grand festival . It's good this one for uk viewers cos it's got subtitles for the Belfast accent.

 

[LiamO]

The more the uk public get a good look at these cunts the better as far as I'm concerned . The union will leave a nasty taste in quite a few mouths . The Tories being propped up by these scum won't exactly do the union or the DUP any favours in popular uk opinion .

Couldn't agree more. My hope is that in a couple of years, when Corbyn's Government wins a landslide, they will send in the auditors.

Not just to audit how this money is dispensed and what sectarian shenanigans the DUP get up to but to show working class Prods (the poor, deluded wretches who vote for the DUP in massive numbers) just how deep the levels of patronage and corruption run right through Unionism.

how the little piggies only get near the trough when the big piggies are stuffed

how they are lucky to get even a few crumbs from their master's table

how they are the 'poor white trash' of the north of Ireland who have been 'mushroomed' (kept in the dark and fed shit) for over 100 years - treated like shit (scorned, ridiculed and disdained) for 11 months of the year then wheeled out to get their heads patted and bellies rubbed whilst they growl at the Fenians during Marching season, then cast aside like a used condom til next year.

The DUP were supposed to be the antidote to the patronage of traditional 'Fur-coat Unionism' but they consistently prove that they are even worse than the posho's they replaced.

A ripple-out effect of a forensic-accounting look at the Red Sky, RHI, NAMA etc would be interesting.

 

[likesfish]

OK Liam. I mean you live under British government as far as I can see. And If a massive community is treated like this, the DUP are allied with by the government, then we should be paying more attention to this huge injustice.

And the injustice is for others to document. But it seems, whats the word? viscious.

And if the Catholic community in NI live under British Govt, why the fuck are they not given a place, a voice?

The do but sein fein dont take their seats for reasons those 7 seats would be rather important in the coming months

 

[LiamO]

it's pretty much traditional for almost half the city to fuck off accross the border to Donegal for the week to escape the madness . North and west Belfast virtually decamps , a mass exodus of Fenians who just want to have a pint in peace and not have too look at or listen to these wankers.

Well worth noting too though that there is also a mass exodus of prods during this period. I was deeply surprised when I learned of the extent of this.

Most are keen to get away from all this shite and consciously aware that staying at home but not taking an active part will make them persona non grata and figues of suspicion - as well as the mob who turn Benidorm into a virtual Shankill on the 12th as they celebrate their 'Britishness' much to the amusement and bemusement of the Spanish (and the actual Brits abroad)

 

[LiamO]

The do but sein fein dont take their seats for reasons those 7 seats would be rather important in the coming months

I think SF would point out that several hundred years of participation at Westminster by Irish Nationalists brought us fuck all. And of course they would have to take an oath of allegiance to Her Maj to take their seats. Political suicide.

 

[likesfish]

Unfortunatly that does give the DUP their chance it will hopefully bite them really really hard if having little effect in Ni its not like SF are going to pick up angry DUP voters is it?

But when corbyn gets in the DUP will be in a really bad place

 

[Fez909]

Do the bonfires have a significance? Beyond provocation, I mean?

What lore is behind them, according to the orange folk?

 

[cupid_stunt]

Do the bonfires have a significance? Beyond provocation, I mean?

What lore is behind them, according to the orange folk?

That's a bit of history I know, but it's easier to quote wikipedia...

Like The Twelfth itself, the Eleventh Night is associated with the Glorious Revolution (1688) and Williamite War in Ireland (1689–91). Tradition holds that the bonfires commemorate the lighting of fires on the hills of counties Antrim and Down to help Williamite ships navigate through Belfast Lough at night.[6] Protestant King William III and his forces landed at Carrickfergus to fight the Catholic Jacobites, supporters of the exiled Catholic King James II who was trying to regain the British throne.

The size of some of these fires, and so near to buildings, has always shocked me, look at this bugger on the wiki page...

... that's fucking nuts!

 

[Fez909]

That's a bit of history I know, but it's easier to quote wikipedia...



The size of some of these fires, and so near to buildings, has always shocked me, look at this bugger on the wiki page...

... that's fucking nuts!

Looks like a tribute to that abandoned* North Korean hotel



*Now complete/not abandoned, I think.

 

[Sasaferrato]

That's a bit of history I know, but it's easier to quote wikipedia...



The size of some of these fires, and so near to buildings, has always shocked me, look at this bugger on the wiki page...

... that's fucking nuts!

Isn't that the Irish flag on the side and top? What's that about?

 

[cupid_stunt]

Isn't that the Irish flag on the side and top? What's that about?

They like burning effigies (inc. the Pope), campaign posters of nationalist politicians, the Irish flag, and in recent years Polish flags too.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Unfortunately, as a Scot, I'm very aware of the sectarianism that we suffer from. It is bone deep, and hasn't wavered in my lifetime.

 

[Sasaferrato]

They like burning effigies (inc. the Pope), campaign posters of nationalist politicians, the Irish flag, and in recent years Polish flags too.

Ah, OK. Ta.

 

[Poi E]

Fuck me, YouTube has a clip of an Orange twat parade in Benidorm. Famine song, too.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Fuck me, YouTube has a clip of an Orange twat parade in Benidorm.

Aye, right!

Link?

 

[Sasaferrato]

Aye, right!

Link?

We actually had one here (Livingston) last year, which was a first. It wasn't exactly advertised, the first I knew of it was 'The sash' floating in on the wind as they marched down the boulevard. We also had a poorly advertised 'Pride' march, annoying that it wasn't advertised better, I'd have gone along.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Aye, right!

Link?

Take your pick:
Orange parade in Benidorm - YouTube

 

[Sasaferrato]

Take your pick:
Orange parade in Benidorm - YouTube

Bloody hell!

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Looks like a tribute to that abandoned* North Korean hotel

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*Now complete/not abandoned, I think.

Mate of mine went on a tour of NK and the tour guide in Pyongyang refused to acknowledge that the hotel existed (you can see it from everywhere). Every time he asked her about it, she either ignored him or pretended not to be able to see it.