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My dad was an English Protestant and my mum was an Irish Catholic (im an atheist so I'm hated by everyone). But they both always went to Southport for the march. To their credit they both thought it was hilarious. There was a well funny Viz comic strip were the main character's trying to find a bowler hat and ends up in a store specializing in 'paramillinery'.
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
No, Eire is what we're told it's called. Although I struggle to find anyone in London who gives enough of a shit to even know that there is an island to the west of Wales.
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Probably because that's what it usd to say o nthe coins
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DotCommunist said:
that time of year when you hide all your pallets if you are in NI
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I doubt thats really an option the local cultural ambassador is sure to just ask nicely and not at all be offended at all by a refusal:hmm:.

I mean when Ilived next to a catholic school in brighton and people complained about parents parking on the grass verges my suggestion was that we get a mob together and we chuck bottles of piss at the kids everybody looked at me as if I was insane:hmm: and not because it was a bad tactic just insane bigatory:D.

I have met perfectly sane NI protestants but obviously not in NI they left and werent going back.
 
I cannot begin to imagine what it must feel like to have a bunch of crazies celebrating their murderous past by shouting their murderous future intentions every year
Good luck
 
hipipol said:
I cannot begin to imagine what it must feel like to have a bunch of crazies celebrating their murderous past by shouting their murderous future intentions every year
Good luck
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They marched past my house in Ballynafeigh one year. I honestly thought they were coming in through my front door.
 
Ming said:
My dad was an English Protestant and my mum was an Irish Catholic (im an atheist so I'm hated by everyone). But they both always went to Southport for the march. To their credit they both thought it was hilarious. There was a well funny Viz comic strip were the main character's trying to find a bowler hat and ends up in a store specializing in 'paramillinery'.
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there was a sketch on i think the fast show where a load of orangemen walk into a ladies and out again and the voiceover was they do this because 200 years ago it was a gents.
 
Time for the annual bump - it's our traditional route - despite the two DUP threads currently on the go.

Here's yer starter for 10...
3,000 bonfire pallets stolen in raid on Belfast council depot - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

The background to this is Belfast Council lifted 3000 (probably stolen) pallets and stored them on Council ground having assured the Orangies they could have them back in the days leading up to the 11th (bonfire night for Loyalists).

Having got wind that dastardly fenians were asking the Council how they could justify returning stolen property, to people who were gonna destroy council property by burning the aformentioned stolen goods, our intrepid bonfire heroes liberated 'their' pallets ahead of the killjoy posse.

Quite how they managed to do this, in the middle of Belast city centre, in an operation that would have taken several hours, using at least one articualted tariler making multiple trips and needing many bodies to do the heavy lifting, apparently compleytely unobserved is a matter of some conjecture and speculation.
 
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Oh holy shit, it is very very hard to comprehend. :eek:

Even the first sentence has me screaming (but silently, so as not to disturb neighbours) "what the hell is going on and how CAN this go on?"

Up to 3,000 pallets being controversially stored by Belfast City Council for loyalist bonfires have been stolen.
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Look, anybody from a sensible country who had never ever heard of this type of shit would be utterly confused completely at a loss. (Visitor from Mars, sort of thing.)

Even that one sentence is enough to twist the brain. Oh, "controversially stored" eh? By the Council."Loyalist bonfires"? "Stolen"? Hmm. :hmm:

Why was a council storing things to make fire with, anyway? Ach, I will not be able to understand it at all. :(

And, for the sake of information, I am from the east end of Glasgow, Mum Catholic, Dad brought up Church of Scotland, have seen Orange Walks and hate them but at least they don't go about burning big fires here.

Yet. Might be different soon, of course.:(

It is vile. I had hoped that sort of shit had calmed down. It seems not. And now it will get worse when the Ian Paisley party is in charge of the Tory "government".

Sadness. But also fear.
 
LiamO said:
Time for the annual bump - it's our traditional route - despite the two DUP threads currently on the go.

Here's yer starter for 10...
3,000 bonfire pallets stolen in raid on Belfast council depot - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

The background to this is Belfast Council lifted 3000 (probably stolen) pallets and stored them on Council ground having assured the Orangies they could have them back in the days leading up to the 11th (bonfire night for Loyalists).

Having got wind that dastardly fenians were asking the Council how they could justify returning stolen property, to people who were gonna destroy council property by burning the aformentioned stolen goods, our intrepid bonfire heroes liberated 'their' pallets ahead of the killjoy posse.

Quite how they managed to do this, in the middle of Belast city centre, in an operation that would have taken several hours, using at least one articualted tariler making multiple trips and needing many bodies to do the heavy lifting, apparently compleytely unobserved is a matter of some conjecture and speculation.
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Unpalletable story.

I'll get my bowler hat.
 
And you can forget about yer shopping/sightseeing/football etc too

NI traffic alerts: 24 parades across Northern Ireland today - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk


and from the Parades Commission website Home - Northern Ireland Parades Commission


Encouraging resolution through local dialogue

Welcome to the Parades Commission Website >>



  • 03/04/2017 2500 PUL parades in Northern Ireland each year


    2016 PUL (Protestant/Unionist/Loyalist) key statistics:
    • 95 per cent of 2500 PUL parades proceed without conditions
    • 1260 Orange Order parades
    • 567 Twelfth parades accounted for 45 per cent of all Orange Order parades
    • 459 loyalist band parades
    • 445 Royal Black Preceptory parades
    • 217 Apprentice Boys of Derry parades
    • 11 per cent of PUL parades took place in Belfast. Belfast parades accounted for 51 per cent of PUL parades with conditions imposed





  • 2016 CRN (Catholic/Republican/Nationalist) key statistics:
    • 25 CRN parades were notified for St Patrick's Day
    • 45 CRN parades were notified for Easter
    • 23 per cent of all CRN parades took place in Belfast
    • 70 per cent of CRN parades with conditions imposed took place in Belfast
 
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fuck me - they're like a bunch of 8 years olds throwing a strop. Its a fucking bonfire. burn something else - go round the supermarkets and collect cardboard boxes, see it your granddad has some garden waste he needs rid of. And i hear lambegs burn well - and red white and blue bunting is good for getting it going.
 
Belfast and marches don't mix.:(l

So around 300 loyalist marches have problems
150 of those are belfast marches:(
With 20 odd catholic marches there heart really isnt in the marching about annoying people are they:hmm:
 
unrepentant85 said:
The beeb are covering a whole march live on the 12th I see. Its on BBC NI right enough. Is this a regular occurrence ?
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Yup , every year , I can rember even as a kid it being on the telly for hours. Their live coverage is generally referred to by them as " the glorious twelfth " . All very hushed tones, reverence . Lightening the mood a bit by going among the crowds and doing happy cheery vox pops . Interviewing the occasional bewildered tourist . At no point during their lengthy live coverage would you get even the remotest admission that this is even remotely a bad thing . Just a big happy pageant that everyone joins in with according to BBC . Despite half the city's population avoiding the city centre in genuine fear of their lives .

Just a small clip here were they discuss the prevalence of regimental style attire on the various flute bands . Like its a fashion show . Everyone here fucking knows that the military style clothing is because these bands are closely aligned to..and very often actually are in person...loyalist terror groups . It's them in parade uniform . The BbC know this..everyone knows this ..but it's just totally normalised in their coverage . Here's them cheerfully discussing the garb of the East Belfast Protestant Boys fb...strongly UVF aligned . Those are UVF regimental parade uniforms basically .

It's staggering to hear these twats talk about were the money for these UVF bands come from..and even discussing how " the young men are recruited into these bands and learn new skills !" ..no shit Sherlock . Everyone knows who these bands actually are and what they are.



Those are UVF banners front and centre, Uvf emblems on their drum kits ..while the BBC commentators inform the audience that the men recruited into these bands are given "something meaningful and purposeful in their lives "

EBPB get an honourable mention at the bottom of this blog, which has pictures of an orange parade through the nationalist village of Rasharkin . That shows you what these uniforms are actually about and the true nature of what these flute bands are about . None of this is even remotely a secret .

Daithí McKay - Republicanism, Craic agus Scéal: Rasharkin Parade : Photos of UDA & UVF bands
 
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For those who can be arsed this is the full live BBC show glorifying and exulting this shite . And that's the UVF marching alongside the happy presenter . The banality of evil .

 
This is a bit dated but still worth remembering for anyone who isn't aware how the other half of the city actually feel about what the BBC is glorifying . This footage was shot in the lower ormeau,which is barely a 5 minute walk from the glorious scenes in Bedford street above . The bookies shop is we're a massacre occurred leaving 5 Catholics dead and a roomful badly injured . Just yards from that was the Rose and Crown bar, torn apart in a loyalist bomb leaving 7 dead and many more maimed . Both attacks were examples of state collusion . And it's quite evident these joyous Orangemen and their paramilitary bands and followers in the footage are ecstatic while passing directly by the scenes of their handiwork, openly celebrating it . 5 minutes round the corner and the BBC gush over them on live telly , marvelling at the splendour



Piping this shit into people's homes via tv broadcasts with grinning presenters , licence fee well spent.
 
LiamO said:
Time for the annual bump - it's our traditional route - despite the two DUP threads currently on the go.

Here's yer starter for 10...
3,000 bonfire pallets stolen in raid on Belfast council depot - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

The background to this is Belfast Council lifted 3000 (probably stolen) pallets and stored them on Council ground having assured the Orangies they could have them back in the days leading up to the 11th (bonfire night for Loyalists).

Having got wind that dastardly fenians were asking the Council how they could justify returning stolen property, to people who were gonna destroy council property by burning the aformentioned stolen goods, our intrepid bonfire heroes liberated 'their' pallets ahead of the killjoy posse.

Quite how they managed to do this, in the middle of Belast city centre, in an operation that would have taken several hours, using at least one articualted tariler making multiple trips and needing many bodies to do the heavy lifting, apparently compleytely unobserved is a matter of some conjecture and speculation.
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Here's Belfast city council staff taking the stolen pallets into safekeeping . Handling thousands of pounds worth of stolen goods basically . They were initially boosted from a distribution chain .

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For the uninitiated right beside the bonfire site is the Holiday Inn , Belfast city centre . Which is definitely the place to go if you want to see a massive loyalist bonfire up close . Because it'll be in the car park right outside your bedroom window . In a city centre .


This is one they made earlier , a partially constructed bonfire right outside the hotel .



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A couple of years ago some sneaky Fenians set the thing alight before it was finished . And plainly Belfast city council cant have that . Might be dangerous, unlike one twice as big and surrounded by drunks ,coked up bigots and paramilitaries .

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Casually Red said:
This footage was shot in the lower ormeau,which is barely a 5 minute walk from the glorious scenes in Bedford street above . The bookies shop is we're a massacre occurred leaving 5 Catholics dead and a roomful badly injured . Just yards from that was the Rose and Crown bar, torn apart in a loyalist bomb leaving 7 dead and many more maimed . Both attacks were examples of state collusion .

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Darragh MacIntyre did an interesting Panorama on loyalist/state collusion back in 2015 which referenced the Ormeau Road Sean Graham's massacre of February 1992, in which a UDA gang attacked a bookie's in a Catholic enclave of Belfast, killing five (including a fifteen year old boy) civilians and wounding many more.



In it he noted that one of the murder weapons, a pistol,

...had been given to the terrorists by a soldier at an army barracks... [Evidence to Stevens Investigation, 2006]

...An informant later handed the gun to the police... [Stevens Investigation, 2003]

...but the police then returned the gun to their agent inside the terror group. They claimed it had been deactivated. [Public Prosecution Service Northern Ireland, 2007]
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The ‘informant’ mentioned above was UDA quartermaster Billy Stobie, a long-time RUC Special Branch agent. The gun he gave to his handlers, only for them to return it, was a Browning Hi-Power 9mm automatic. Stobie had been given it by West Belfast UDA's Ken Barrett, himself an RUCSB informant from the late 1980s or very early 1990s, a contemporary of Johnny Adair, and by his own account the murderer of (amongst others) the solicitor Pat Finucane. Barrett had acquired the British army issue weapon from Belfast's Malone UDR barracks in January 1989.

The other weapon used in the attack was a Czech vz.58 assault rifle, which was part of a consignment smuggled in from South Africa by Brian Nelson, the British Army's key agent within the UDA, where he worked primarily as an intelligence officer.

Whist both murder weapons (which together had been used to kill three people before the massacre) were subsequently recovered, police subsequently ‘lost’ them, or claimed they had been ‘destroyed’. Eventually the rifle turned up... As an exhibit in the Imperial War Museum.

http://relativesforjustice.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/S.Graham-Full-Report-Web.pdf
RUC gave bookies massacre gun back to loyalists - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
Collusion report calls for inquiry | Belfast Media Group
Now betting shop atrocity failings come to light - Investigations & Analysis - Northern Ireland from The Detail
PSNI chief apologises over murder weapon exhibit - BBC News
 
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