Bye bye MEAT! How will the post-meat future look?

[littlebabyjesus]

That's sad. Genuinely.

Wasn't the case with my old cat, fortunately for him. He was already in pain from illness/old age, but there was no fear in his face when he died. He didn't know he was dying at that point, of course.

 

[WouldBe]

I'm not sure about the consumptability of the post life flesh. But I believe it is far more humane to kill animals in the manner prescribed by veterinary science
As for cost: you've struck gold here, shipmate! The most humane methods for killing will certainly drive up the cost of meat.
Thus, consumption of it will decrease.
Eat less meat!

Barbiturates cost pennies. Probably far less than the cost of a bolt.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

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Have you read what she said about her dog. the mistreatment I am referring to came before she shot it.

There appears to be an obsesssion with death in your position. The mistreatment involved how she cared for it (or didn't) while it was alive.

 

[bcuster]

Barbiturates cost pennies. Probably far less than the cost of a bolt.

Great. Then this method of killing animals is to commence immediately in all US and UK slaughterhouses? Excellent! Again a consensus has been reached through our putting our heads together and making reasonvble compromises.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Have you read what she said about her dog. the mistreatment I am referring to came before she shot it.

What specifically are you refering to?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

What specifically are you refering to?

Her statement. About her dog, what it was like, what she did to it, and that. You know. The statement she put out.

 

[WouldBe]

Great. Then this method of killing animals is to commence immediately in all US and UK slaughterhouses? Excellent! Again a consensus has been reached through our putting our heads together and making reasonvble compromises.

So you're in favour of killing animals for no reason then as the meat would be inedible.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Her statement. About her dog, what it was like, what she did to it, and that. You know. The statement she put out.

She didn't put out a statement, the controversy surrounds a book excerpt, I'm not sure what aspect of what she said you're objecting to. But regardless, are you saying that the shooting the puppy in the head thing itself was okay, just that the stuff that went before it was wrong?

 

[bcuster]

So you're in favour of killing animals for no reason then as the meat would be inedible.

Would the meat be inedible? I'm not sure about that. Are you?
If so, could the meat be made edible?

 

[Saul Goodman]

Would the meat be inedible? I'm not sure about that. Are you?
If so, could the meat be made edible?

Maybe we could tickle them to death with a feather?

 

[WouldBe]

Would the meat be inedible? I'm not sure about that. Are you?
If so, could the meat be made edible?

Not sure that feeding people food laced with barbiturates is either safe or morally acceptable.

 

[bcuster]

Maybe we could tickle them to death with a feather?

Doesn't sound humane to me.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Doesn't sound humane to me.

At least they'll die laughing.

 

[Funky_monks]

What the fuck?

Food laced with barbituates?

 

[bcuster]

What the fuck?

Food laced with barbituates?

Is it edible? If not, can it be made edible?

 

[Jeff Robinson]

At least it would optimise consumer incentive structures to make the morally right and sustainable choice.

 

[Saul Goodman]

What the fuck?

Food laced with barbituates?

It's gone beyond surreal, now.

 

[Funky_monks]

Is it edible? If not, can it be made edible?

No.
Here is the POM-V sheet for Pentobarbital for Euthanasia 20% w/v Solution for Injection: https://www.vmd.defra.gov.uk/productinformationdatabase/files/QRD_Documents/QRD-Auth_1243983.PDF

Highlights include: "Not to be used in animals intended for human or animal consumption. Treated horse may never be slaughtered for human consumption. The horses must have been declared as not for human consumption under national horse passport legislation."
"User Warnings: This is a potent drug, which is toxic to man. Particular care shouldbe taken to avoid accidental ingestion and self-injection. Pentobarbital is a potent hypnotic and sedative (Sch 3 CD). It is toxic if swallowed and can be absorbed through the skin."

Also, lethal injection isn't always effective. Animals can take quite a long time to die and occasionally need more of it to finish them off. I did my work experience at a vets, and therefore saw a lot of animals die like that as it is the bread and butter of what vets do. I dislike it immensely as a method of euthanasia and yet slaughterhouses don't bother me. Make of that what you will.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Big fuck-off dose of heroin would be one way to do. Would be my choice, I think. Heroin is cheap as well. But can't be used cos reasons. (No idea about the edibility of a heroin-riddled body.)

 

[WouldBe]

At least it would optimise consumer incentive structures to make the morally right and sustainable choice.

So you now agree with with killing animals for no purpose.

 

[Funky_monks]

This thread is surreal now.

Some non-sequitur about a dog and using barbituates as a slaughter method.

I'm pretty sure I posted up the AHDB video explaining sheep slaughter but, to reiterate:
The stun (which should be recoverable, whichever way you do it) renders the animal insensible. It is then killed by a neck cut. You need to bleed a carcase out - how on earth would you achieve this on one killed with an overdose of barbituates (even before you've got into the toxicity of them)?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

This thread is surreal now.

Some non-sequitur about a dog and using barbituates as a slaughter method.

I'm pretty sure I posted up the AHDB video explaining sheep slaughter but, to reiterate:
The stun (which should be recoverable, whichever way you do it) renders the animal insensible. It is then killed by a neck cut. You need to bleed a carcase out - how on earth would you achieve this on one killed with an overdose of barbituates (even before you've got into the toxicity of them)?

You can prove anything with facts.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

You can prove anything with facts.

You didn't answer my question to you.

 

[kabbes]

Great. Then this method of killing animals is to commence immediately in all US and UK slaughterhouses? Excellent! Again a consensus has been reached through our putting our heads together and making reasonvble compromises.

Like I said — a new low of idiocy

 

[butcher]

Just leave the livestock for half an hour with Jeff and Bcuster and the buggers will be running head first at the nearest wall.

Voluntary euthanasia and they get to spout their claptrap to their hearts content.

Everyone is happy!

 

[bcuster]

Just leave the livestock for half an hour with Jeff and Bcuster and the buggers will be running head first at the nearest wall.

Voluntary euthanasia and they get to spout their claptrap to their hearts content.

Everyone is happy!

Well said!

 

[bcuster]

Like I said — a new low of idiocy

That's not nice

 

[bcuster]

This thread is surreal now.

Some non-sequitur about a dog and using barbituates as a slaughter method.

I'm pretty sure I posted up the AHDB video explaining sheep slaughter but, to reiterate:
The stun (which should be recoverable, whichever way you do it) renders the animal insensible. It is then killed by a neck cut. You need to bleed a carcase out - how on earth would you achieve this on one killed with an overdose of barbituates (even before you've got into the toxicity of them)?

Disgusting, repugnant and inhumane.

 

[kabbes]

That's not nice

You’re not nice

 

[Funky_monks]

Disgusting, repugnant and inhumane.

Not to most who eat meat it isn't.

Do you find a slow death from poison equally repugnant? Grainstores must have poison stations around them to comply with Red Tractor for example...

I'm sure rodent contaminated grain would be a barrel of laughs if you were to eat it....