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It's truly impressive that something as sci-fi as Buffy (I know that's a whole nother argument, but for simplicity..)
[ pedant ] No need for arguments, Buffy = fantasy, not SF.
Science fiction = features technology + science-related extrapolations of some kind.
Fantasy= features magic, fantastic supernatural beings and forces, usually no science- and if some kind of science is present, it usually circumvenes scientific plausibility/laws and is just a form of magic [ / pedant ]
Sorry to be so humourless on such a brilliant thread, but just felt it needed to be said... :oops:
 
[ pedant ] No need for argument, Buffy = fantasy, not SF.
science fiction = features technology + science-related extrapolations of some kind.
fantasy= features magic, fantastic supernatural beings and forces, usually no science- and if some kind of science is present, it usually circumvenes scientific plausibility/laws and is just a form of magic[ / pedant ]
Sorry to be so humourless on such a brilliant thread, but just feel it needed to be said...

What about Willow - she was all science and computers for several seasons :D
 
Whereas Spike's is by no means infallible, but very good. Apparently he auditioned with an English accent and they loved it (and had no idea he was American)!

My daughter has a friend called Drusilla :cool:
it's good but I always felt the slang and cockneyisms never quite rang true
 
What about Willow - she was all science and computers for several seasons :D
Aye, you may be right it's not 100% clear cut. (-Willow! x :oops: )I admit I never managed to catch all the episodes- we had no video player until the year I left home, and we weren't allowed to watch Buffy because mum thought all popular culture featuring too much hotness and sexily clad folk wasn't good for us, so we had to sneakily watch it then turn it off as she entered the room- :mad:
 
it's good but I always felt the slang and cockneyisms never quite rang true
I agree, it winds me up no end that they always use 'ponce' wrong. There's another repeat offender but I can't think of it right now. No doubt it'll come to me at 4am :rolleyes::D (eta: possibly 'nancy'?)

maya I thought about saying fantasy, but I couldn't make it fit the sentence and the linguistic pedant in me wouldn't let it hang there :oops: But the others are right anyway, it's a blend of genres - meta-genre much of the time.
 
I agree, it winds me up no end that they always use 'ponce' wrong. There's another repeat offender but I can't think of it right now. No doubt it'll come to me at 4am :rolleyes::D (eta: possibly 'nancy'?)
You'd have thought Anthony Head would have had a word. Unless he's far too posh to know his slang
 
I agree, it winds me up no end that they always use 'ponce' wrong. There's another repeat offender but I can't think of it right now. No doubt it'll come to me at 4am :rolleyes::D (eta: possibly 'nancy'?)

maya I thought about saying fantasy, but I couldn't make it fit the sentence and the linguistic pedant in me wouldn't let it hang there :oops: But the others are right anyway, it's a blend of genres - meta-genre much of the time.

Spike to the Buffybot 'Very posh!'
 
Does SMG ever have anything to do with them? She never features in the extra DVD interviews..

She wasn't well liked on the set and kept apart from the rest of the crew and cast who were very close. Raving republican and all round unpleasant person if one believes the rumours.
 
You'd have thought Anthony Head would have had a word. Unless he's far too posh to know his slang
Possibly. In Band Candy Giles does an inspired mockney accent that must have been his idea. It's a bit shit :D But very true to being a teenager. I love the Buffy writers obsession with calling adults grown ups! Any episode with Ethan Rayne is made of win.
 
She wasn't well liked on the set and kept apart from the rest of the crew and cast who were very close. Raving republican and all round unpleasant person if one believes the rumours.

This comes across on the show I think. I don't dislike Gellar's acting, it's cartoonish but it does fit in with the overall feel of the show. All the best chemistry, timing and dramatic chutzpah is found elsewhere in the cast though.
 
Possibly. In Band Candy Giles does an inspired mockney accent that must have been his idea. It's a bit shit :D But very true to being a teenager. I love the Buffy writers obsession with calling adults grown ups! Any episode with Ethan Rayne is made of win.

He's dead now :(
 
Possibly. In Band Candy Giles does an inspired mockney accent that must have been his idea. It's a bit shit :D But very true to being a teenager. I love the Buffy writers obsession with calling adults grown ups! Any episode with Ethan Rayne is made of win.


nothing will ever beat the gold blend adverts for Head cringe
 
This comes across on the show I think. I don't dislike Gellar's acting, it's cartoonish but it does fit in with the overall feel of the show. All the best chemistry, timing and dramatic chutzpah is found elsewhere in the cast though.
tbh that probably worked in the later seasons anyway given Buffy's increasing isolation and loneliness, out of necessity as the Slayer
 
This comes across on the show I think. I don't dislike Gellar's acting, it's cartoonish but it does fit in with the overall feel of the show. All the best chemistry, timing and dramatic chutzpah is found elsewhere in the cast though.

I never believe a single one of Gellars emotions, she always kept that deliberateness of a bad child actress (which she was) where you always see in the eyes what she is going to do next. She wasn't too bad on Buffy, though she is the reason why I never liked Buffy herself that much, but when she tried for a screen career it became obvious what a terrible actress she is.
 
tbh that probably worked in the later seasons anyway given Buffy's increasing isolation and loneliness, out of necessity as the Slayer

Yeah, whether by accident or by design it really works. The Harry Potter films have a simillar dynamic, you don't admire the lead character so much as you admire the sidekicks for putting up with them.
 
[ pedant ] No need for arguments, Buffy = fantasy, not SF.
Science fiction = features technology + science-related extrapolations of some kind.
Fantasy= features magic, fantastic supernatural beings and forces, usually no science- and if some kind of science is present, it usually circumvenes scientific plausibility/laws and is just a form of magic [ / pedant ]
Sorry to be so humourless on such a brilliant thread, but just felt it needed to be said... :oops:

To be even more pedantic, since fundamental principles of science prohibit both faster than light travel and reactionless (propellantless) engines, then most mainstream SF is actually fantasy too.

Once you allow FTL you might as well also have elves riding on pink unicorns ... ;)
 
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