When does Buffy get good?

[danny la rouge]

I thought it peaked in Season 3

it's probably not for you

Aye, that would appear to be the case.

 

[belboid]

Try S3E09, The Wish. It kind of accidentally catches you up on what you have missed and is probably the best episode of that season. Plus, Anya

If you dont like that, you dont like Buffy. And your heart is made of stone.

 

[Jennaonthebeach]

dunno about the claim that it gets better with every season - season 4 had Riley in it ffs!

That's why i said "with one exception".

 

[pogofish]

Wow! It was utter shite back then and I can't think how much more shite it will seem today!

The only reason folk watched it back then was for the eye candy of either sex. It can't have been for what little it had by way of storylines

 

[Saul Goodman]

Aye, that would appear to be the case.

Just drop it while you still retain an ounce of dignity.

 

[Elpenor]

Never watched it tho never really enjoyed any of the “aimed at young people” American tv imports

 

[Saul Goodman]

Never watched it tho never really enjoyed any of the “aimed at young people” American tv imports

Yeah but that's only 'cos they're shit.

 

[sojourner]

We watched all of it last year, cos my lass used to love it but I'd never watched it. Loved it, and yes, it becomes very involving and engaging after the bubblegum beginnings.

 

[Elpenor]

Yeah but that's only 'cos they're shit.

They were always on channel 4 in the Sunday morning “hangover tv to watch under a duvet on the sofa” slot but instead I chose either to go back to bed or drink more

 

[Agent Sparrow]

You’re all absolute philistines*

Tbf it helps if you think Spike is hot.

*apart from belboid and sojourner

 

[Saul Goodman]

They were always on channel 4 in the Sunday morning “hangover tv to watch under a duvet on the sofa” slot but instead I chose either to go back to bed or drink more

I reckon if I was faced with American TV, I'd be back on the booze, rather sharpish.

 

[Orang Utan]

Never watched it tho never really enjoyed any of the “aimed at young people” American tv imports

All a bit overarticulate for me.
I did enjoy the first 3 seasons of Stranger Things, mind.

 

[CNT36]

I know, I’m 30 years late. But I thought it was a kids’ show when it came out. Ive just watched 5 and a bit episodes of season one, and it’s getting worse and worse. It’s like a play put on by the Crackerjack team.

When people say it’s good, do they mean actually good, or is this some postmodern meaning. And if it really does get good, when does that start? Because I’m going to skip to there.





(From the La Brea thread).

There is singing eventually. You'll like that...

 

[Agent Sparrow]

A more serious answer to before:

a) someone earlier said it was dated. That’s true in more ways than one, and one way is that the more ground breaking parts are lost now. TV and film is now full of waify action girls but it wasn’t then. Likewise series arcs weren’t as common place as they are now.

b) series 1 is very monster of the week. Series 3 is largely arc based, and series 2 is somewhere in the middle. So I would probably advise new watchers to skip series 1 (as I would Star Trek TNG) and start with series 2 and skip certain episodes that don’t take the story any further. Nobody needs to watch Inca Mummy Girl.

c) now as an adult, I appreciate the metaphors for teenage life stuff even if they are a bit basic. Admittedly they are more common in the early seasons.

d) don’t watch Angel. It’s shite.

e) I still hold that the musical episode is the best/only watchable musical episode of a TV show that isn’t specifically all a musical, and I will die on this hill.

 

[belboid]

A more serious answer to before:

a) someone earlier said it was dated. That’s true in more ways than one, and one way is that the more ground breaking parts are lost now. TV and film is now full of waify action girls but it wasn’t then. Likewise series arcs weren’t as common place as they are now.

b) series 1 is very monster of the week. Series 3 is largely arc based, and series 2 is somewhere in the middle. So I would probably advise new watchers to skip series 1 (as I would Star Trek TNG) and start with series 2 and skip certain episodes that don’t take the story any further. Nobody needs to watch Inca Mummy Girl.

c) now as an adult, I appreciate the metaphors for teenage life stuff even if they are a bit basic. Admittedly they are more common in the early seasons.

d) don’t watch Angel. It’s shite.

e) I still hold that the musical episode is the best/only watchable musical episode of a TV show that isn’t specifically all a musical, and I will die on this hill.

She knows whereof she speaks

 

[sojourner]

I liked Angel Tbf, I was such a Buffy whore at that stage, I just needed my supply to continue

 

[hitmouse]

e) I still hold that the musical episode is the best/only watchable musical episode of a TV show that isn’t specifically all a musical, and I will die on this hill.

I dunno about that... Oz, for instance?

 

[Agent Sparrow]

I dunno about that... Oz, for instance?

I will concede that I haven’t seen that one so I might be good.

 

[belboid]

I dunno about that... Oz, for instance?

That must've been after I stopped watching it. The one Its Always Sunny In Philadelphia is meant to be the other really good one.

 

[danny la rouge]

There is singing eventually. You'll like that...

Are we talking Cop Rock? Or even better?

 

[Agent Sparrow]

b) series 1 is very monster of the week. Series 3 is largely arc based, and series 2 is somewhere in the middle. So I would probably advise new watchers to skip series 1 (as I would Star Trek TNG) and start with series 2 and skip certain episodes that don’t take the story any further. Nobody needs to watch Inca Mummy Girl.

Further to this, I think you could do worse than starting at S2E3 and skipping S2E4 (the aforementioned Inca Mummy Girl), whilst being aware of Buffy stopping breathing (ie dying) and being resuscitated by Xander at the end of S1 because that’s relevant for later.

 

[sojourner]

I couldn't watch cherrypicked episodes myself. There's so much joy comes from joining the dots throughout. And you really become engaged in their lives. Missing bits would do my head in.

 

[emanymton]

Buffy goes downhill after season 1.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Buffy goes downhill at the start of season 1.

CFY

 

[spudulike]

"Hush" and "Band Candy". Though watching them without any prior knowledge of the characters probably wouldn't work.

"Once More, with Feeling" - marmite

 

[Jennaonthebeach]

It appears everyone on this thread has got me on ignore. So that's great!

 

[belboid]

It appears everyone on this thread has got me on ignore. So that's great!

I liked some of Riley. Mostly him leaving, it’s true.

 

[belboid]

"Hush" and "Band Candy". Though watching them without any prior knowledge of the characters probably wouldn't work.

"Once More, with Feeling" - marmite

No episode should be watched not knowing the ongoing plot, ruins them.

 

[danny la rouge]

It appears everyone on this thread has got me on ignore. So that's great!

I haven’t. But you’ve not said anything I can respond to as I’ve only watched the first 5 episodes and half of two others.

 

[sojourner]

It appears everyone on this thread has got me on ignore. So that's great!

Why do you think that?