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When does Buffy get good?
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Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
The older I get, the more certain scenes of Band Candy at the Bronze seem like nothing to bat an eyelid at.
Kiss rocks!The older I get, the more certain scenes of Band Candy at the Bronze seem like nothing to bat an eyelid at.
baldrick
hmmmmm
I really like S1. Yes the teenage life as dark and filled with monsters is a bit overdone but I think it's fun. Some of the set pieces of Buffy's new friends gradually discovering who she is are very trope-y now but it wasn't then.
Anyone who doesn't laugh at these lines has a cold dead heart imo
"You were supposed to die! It is written!"
"What can I say? I flunked the written"
Anyone who doesn't laugh at these lines has a cold dead heart imo
"You were supposed to die! It is written!"
"What can I say? I flunked the written"
Orang Utan
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I’m going to take a wild guess and speculate that most Buffy fans here are between 30-45 years old.
I am definitely too old for it. It wasn’t something my peers were watching IIRC.
I am definitely too old for it. It wasn’t something my peers were watching IIRC.
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
He’s a handsome young man, is for sure.
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
danny la rouge in the opening of S3 she spearheads a rebellion of exploited workers brandishing a hammer and sickle, if you want some Real Urbans. 
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
Yes, but tbf I thoroughly and unironically enjoyed Never Have I Ever in my early 40s so
Orang Utan
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I don’t know how people get the time to get into their own demographic’s tv shows let alone other generations’Yes, but tbf I thoroughly and unironically enjoyed Never Have I Ever in my early 40s so
The Octagon
Stop...Hammertime
While I'm a big fan of Buffy, this is probably fair.
I grew up as the same age as the characters and certain shows stay with you.
It also created several tropes that newer viewers will take as given, but were groundbreaking and exciting at the time, so there's likely to be a disconnect there.
Although I work at a uni and there's quite a few newer fans too, the writing is still sharp enough to appeal and there's a bit of a 90's revival with the fashion and music.
Orang Utan
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Shame Heartbreak High never gained this traction
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Orang Utan
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Yes, I don’t know what your excuse is
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
HH was pretty mediocre from what I remember. Australian Hollyoaks.
Orang Utan
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My point is that it was on when I had a lot of time to watch telly. It didn’t have to be good. It just had to be on telly in the early evening.
And that’s why Buffy is rated in that particular demographic.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Because I have taste, muckle flugga. It was also a good time for me to watch TV. mrsb and I rather bonded over, what must have been, the repeats of the series in the run up to the finale in....2004? So, that was nice. Especially as the only other female led drama on at the time, that wasn't completely abysmal shit was Sex and the City*. Comparatively, I think you can see why I have more than a spot spot for Buffy.
I think I have mentioned on The Thread that it was then I first saw the episode The Body. I won't go into detail, but it was only six or nine months after my mum had died and no piece of television ever has made me blub like the Blubbery Baron Of Blub as that did. So it still very much has that time and place effect that hits me as hard as the music I listened to when I was fifteen. That episode is still really hard to watch.
And, it is just really fucking clever in places. Normal Again, Hush, hell, The Zeppo! Heathers is one of my favourite movies too. you can't knock a really good High School drama
*SATC was vilely objectionable and its undoubtedly true mrsb enjoyed it more than me, but it was well made, cannily scripted and had named women talking to other named women about something other than men, still a rarity for the time.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
From the thread ^.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I meant to reply to this.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
The four ages of Buffy (for a bloke, at least). They can all occur within any given five minute period.
First, you identify with Spike (or Angel, if you're weird), the cool rebel,
Then you ponder for a moment and think, okay, you are (the powerless but ultra-reliable) Xander,
Then you recall something from the seventies and think you're Giles.
Before, finally, looking in the mirror
And realising you're Clem
First, you identify with Spike (or Angel, if you're weird), the cool rebel,
Then you ponder for a moment and think, okay, you are (the powerless but ultra-reliable) Xander,
Then you recall something from the seventies and think you're Giles.
Before, finally, looking in the mirror
And realising you're Clem
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
As a (now) librarian with ADHD, I was destined to never be anything but Xander and Giles.
Besides, Spike was a prick and Angel was a mopey wet blanket.
(FTR, now I'm more firmly in my 'Giles-years', I recognise that Xander had massive problems as well. But, y'know, he was the awkward teen who used humour as a defense mechanism, so...).
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
Now in my 40s with a daughter who is fast approaching adolescence, I find myself empathising with Joyce a LOT more.
This. ^^^ Even if you don’t like Buffy, there’s no getting away from the fact it did something very different at the time from a lot of other TV. And I think the comparison to SATC in that respect is fair. Given its apparent feminist (and later LGBTQ+) credentials, it’s a shame that Whedon turned out to be a massive, controlling nob.
I’m also not saying that it was perfectly groundbreaking btw.
polly
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I loved HH. You had to swallow a certain amount of cringe even at the time and it got steadily better as you got to know the characters, so it's probably a good comparison with Buffy. Except that people don't still act like it was good TV
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
Harking back to the earlier conversation about musical episodes, where streams It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia? It’s my day off work today and I think I need to see their musical episode as part of a compare and contrast deal.
Glitter
Goddess of rock!
danny la rouge persevere with S1 but don’t skip S2.
S1 is very much a scene setting season. Things get good in S2 and rapidly progress to awesome.
S1 is very much a scene setting season. Things get good in S2 and rapidly progress to awesome.
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