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Buffy the Vampire Slayer

*high fives Rebelda *This is a great thread.

I think four pages overnight ten years after Buffy ended shows what a great show it was/is. S1 Ep 5 is on Syfy right now btw!

Manter fancying Spike is weird. If, of course, weird means totally and completely normal. I used to have a life size cardboard cutout of Spike at the foot of my bed.

Anyone else find Angel far more attractive when he was evil too? Especially the one where Faith thinks she's turned him?

Dawn and Riley both need killing in the face if you ask me. There's always an addition to the musical episode in my house - Does anybody even notice, does anybody even care? Is always followed by 'Fuck off Dawn'

'The Body' is one of the most powerful pieces of television I have ever seen.

I can never watch 'Passion' from Season 2 (the one where Angel kills Jenny Calendar and leaves her for Giles to find) either. It's all too upsetting.

Joss Whedon is a fucking genius!!!
 
Dawn had her funny bits as the annoying little sister she was supposed to be selfish and stupid.
Riley was just annoying remember the episode where he left the show shouting at the tv "Get to the choppa!" hoping he didn't decide to stay.:mad:
 
S☼I said:
I loved it, all of it. It was funny, well-acted, there was Eliza Dushku, I gave a fuck about everyone in it, there was Eliza Dushku, it took risks within its confines, every time Buffy cried I cried too without being able to help it (especially when she finds her mum dead and says "Mom? Mom? ...Mommy?", the bit where all the girls turn into slayers, there was Eliza Dushku.

But yeah, Riley and Dawn should have been in it a lot less.

I've got all the Angels too and anyone wondering if they should watch it, they should watch it, it's funny, scary, there is sometimes Eliza Dushku.
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I only used to watch it for Eliza Dushku. I don't remember a single other thing about the show, maybe something about vampires or something. Eliza Dushku.
 
JTG said:
Let's be honest, we all felt far more comfortable with Buffy's boyfriends when they were undead didn't we? Riley was just :facepalm:
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Her choice of human males was not great:
Owen - Liability
Scott Hope - Douche
Parker - Mega douche (surely everyone cheered Riley for a brief second when he smacked him one?)

I quite liked Riley as a character, although less as Buffy's boyf and more when he was interacting with the Scoobies and Xander in particular.

The bit where he's trying to be covert running from headstone to headstone in the graveyard and they're all just following him whilst munching on crisps and shouting is :D

Plus taking out the vamp that stabbed Buffy, then grenading the crypt was pretty badass. As was 'staking' Spike :cool:
 
JTG said:
Quite so. I thought the way grief and emotional torment were treated throughout the show was brilliant - Willow's abandonment by Oz, Buffy's loss of her mother, Tara's death and its effect on Willow, even Anya's abandonment at the altar by Xander. They weren't just encountered and then overcome in an episode or two, they became part of the very fabric of the show's plots and the basis for the eventual redemption of several characters
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...and of course, emotional torment and the need to be loved was eventually revealed to be at the very centre of Spike's story and the key to his redemption - though we never knew it until the very end.

Buffy's faith in Spike's ability to be a force for good and to eventually save the world when everyone else around her - even good hearted Willow and wise Mr Giles - had no confidence in him at all, is what led to their eventual triumph over evil. It was on a par with Frodo's belief in Gollum or the Doctor's refusal to destroy the Daleks before they were even created as a demonstration of the power of love and hope over darkness. It was absolutely magnificent :)
 
I loved all the characters, every one, yes even Dawn (and definitely Tara, ffs!), except Riley. Was so pleased how the storyline with him panned out, because really wtf would Buffy have been doing with a blank plank like that?

Spike lust = normal. Dushku lust ditto.

Never has a show lodged itself so firmly in my emotions or resonated so strongly with me, and I watched it as a deadbeat 20something. Hard to pick my favourite season from 3, 4, 5 or 6. The Body is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen in a prime time, 'teen' comedy drama. The episode after still always makes me sob my heart out. "Who's going to make things better? Who's going to take care of us?"

I can feel a rewatch coming on. Except...I have never rewatched season 7 after it initially showed on tv. I didn't like it. <whispers> I was painfully disappointed, in fact. Should I go there again?
 
May Kasahara said:
I can feel a rewatch coming on. Except...I have never rewatched season 7 after it initially showed on tv. I didn't like it. <whispers> I was painfully disappointed, in fact. Should I go there again?
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Really? I only made it to the very end of season 7 recently and thought it was absolutely perfect
 
S7 felt a bit patchy to me, but ramped up well at the end and was suitably epic at the finale.

Nathan Fillion as the woman-hating super-preacher was a good turn.
 
we used to watch buffy religiously every week when it first aired. its on lovefilm now so may give it a rewatch. loved the musical episode and the way the plot developed over the years (were a few blips but in the main it was consistent which is saying something for a series that lasted so long)
 
JTG said:
Really? I only made it to the very end of season 7 recently and thought it was absolutely perfect
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I thought the fight scenes were very badly filmed and the whole thing was strangely unsatisfying. Also Willow's new girlfriend was really annoying :D It's entirely possible that I'll watch it again and go 'wow'; you have at least convinced me that I should give it a chance.

The first time I saw the final episode of S4, I was deeply disappointed and felt quite let down. From the second watch onwards, it's been one of my favourites.
 
JTG said:
Buffy's faith in Spike's ability to be a force for good and to eventually save the world when everyone else around her - even good hearted Willow and wise Mr Giles - had no confidence in him at all, is what led to their eventual triumph over evil.
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I love that he gives Buffy the strength to go back and carry on at the end, after that night together. Just thinking about the moment he says he was terrified makes me well up. Plus, 'I'm drowning in footwear' :D

May Kasahara said:
The Body is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen in a prime time, 'teen' comedy drama. The episode after still always makes me sob my heart out. "Who's going to make things better? Who's going to take care of us?"
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Every time I watch The Body again I re-notice that there's no music. Even though I know there's no music in the episode, it's somehow immensely powerful when you're actually watching. The Anya/Willow moment in the subsequent episode makes me weep. It's truly impressive that something as sci-fi as Buffy (I know that's a whole nother argument, but for simplicity..) can tap such human honesty.
 
Noite of caution: I tend towards the 'wide eyed credulity' end of the criticism scale :D
 
I kind of understand what you mean May Kasahara until I think about the individual episodes in that season and so many of them are just AWESOME!!!

I just tried to think of a favourite and about six different bits popped into my head at once!

Give it a go.

And as The Octagon says Nathan Fillion is mint!
 
Rebelda said:
I love that he gives Buffy the strength to go back and carry on at the end, after that night together. Just thinking about the moment he says he was terrified makes me well up. Plus, 'I'm drowning in footwear' :D
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It's the vampire Angel face on the punchbag that properly gets me! :D
 
Rebelda said:
Every time I watch The Body again I re-notice that there's no music. Even though I know there's no music in the episode, it's somehow immensely powerful when you're actually watching. The Anya/Willow moment in the subsequent episode makes me weep. It's truly impressive that something as sci-fi as Buffy (I know that's a whole nother argument, but for simplicity..) can tap such human honesty.
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Of all the episodes of BTVS, that one is the scariest. Because it deals with something we have all either faced or will have to face in the future and the realisation that we have no recourse to complaint/appeal/fighting supernatural enemies. It just is, and that's that. The episode dealt with the feelings, confusion, isolation, emptiness etc with no big message, just the situation as it is. It's very powerful, very sad and very human. The vampire at the end seems like an entirely superfluous and inane appendix to the real story
 
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