Do it!I have been considering this thread lately. Getting something of a Buffy itch
Need to swipe me telly back from someone firstDo it!
Forgive me if the article is shit, I didn't read it
I find myself getting really annoyed watching that episode.I wanna go and watch that one where Buffy and Faith switch bodies.
I find myself getting really annoyed watching that episode.
Not coz it's bad but I want to scream "it's nut Buffy you fools" all the time
Definitely!The acting in it is great I think.
So anyway, I have now read it. Sort of synopsis of the speech really. Which is just as well cos the online media is disablist and thinks posting links of speeches without transcribing them or providing subtitles is an acceptable carry on. And it isn't really.Oooh I've only ever read the soundbite, I've never heard the speech in full http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/womens-blog/2013/oct/29/joss-whedon-strong-women-characters
Forgive me if the article is shit, I didn't read it
Mostly spot on but not sure about this bit:
But Buffy herself arrives in the pilot fully-formed—smart, kind, sensitive, and aware of what she wants in life, which is mostly not to have to kill vampires every night and to just be a normal teenager.
I think she's an contradictory mix of ever changing but also staying the same.Mostly spot on but not sure about this bit:
Up to a point (and out of plot necessity really). She already knows what she is - but I don't think she knows who she is until much much later
Yeah. I think she's easily the best character in the first season or so because she's more formed than the others. But the development curve of the Scoobies and others is so much steeper and more interesting.I think she's an contradictory mix of ever changing but also staying the same.
Even though it wouldn't be what it is without her, and I do love her, she quite low down on the list of which characters I love the most.
Yes. I hadn't really thought about it like that but I think you're right.Yeah. I think she's easily the best character in the first season or so because she's more formed than the others. But the development curve of the Scoobies and others is so much steeper and more interesting.
Spike's a proper slow burner of a character. Goes up like a skyrocket in the last couple of seasons eh.Yes. I hadn't really thought about it like that but I think you're right.
I think Spike is at the top (obvs ) , Anya second and then Giles for me. With the others changing depending on how I feel.
His best moment is when he gives the immobilised Ben the speech about how Buffy isn't like them as she couldn't kill a human, Ben says something like "not like us?" and Giles covers his mouth and nose and suffocates him!Spike's a proper slow burner of a character. Goes up like a skyrocket in the last couple of seasons eh.
Giles' curve is interesting. From wise elder statesman to discarded has-been, to one of the gang again... and the little insights into his private emotional life are excellent
Jesus yes, that was a proper shocker ehHis best moment is when he gives the immobilised Ben the speech about how Buffy isn't like them as she couldn't kill a human, Ben says something like "not like us?" and Giles covers his mouth and nose and suffocates him!
Yes. He does it for totally valid, noble reasons.Jesus yes, that was a proper shocker eh
When we see Willow go all bad we know it's either an alternative reality or the corrupting influence of magic. When Giles does this it's just... Giles. And all the more shocking for that
Yeah, I thought it was bollocks and all.Mostly spot on but not sure about this bit:
Up to a point (and out of plot necessity really). She already knows what she is - but I don't think she knows who she is until much much later
I am here to tell you that at a certain point in your life; you watch Buffy and identify with Joyce.
*Willow is awesome for Jewish girls.
*Willow is terrible for Jewish girls because the only time her Judaism ever gets brought up is as an example of how mean her parents are to not let her do Christian things.
*Willow is a saint.
*Willow is an awful friend who camps out in Buffy's house without paying rent and then makes Buffy take a shitty job to support everyone and was just as big a Nice Girl to Xander as he was a Nice Guy to Buffy.
*Remember when she magically roofied Tara into forgetting their fight and then had sex with her and later said Tara broke up with her for no reason?
*Wow how did I not see that Willow was awful?
indeed, the article is very very clearly written by blokes (otherwise there is no way they'd fail to mention Anya, possibly the best character in the show. Other than Kennedy)Has this one been shared yet? Some of the comments are, for once, funnier and more spot on than the examples in the article.
http://the-toast.net/2015/03/24/every-argument-about-buffy-on-the-internet-from-1998-until-now/