Britain - A Christian Nation?

[danny la rouge]

And Jesus sayeth unto the poor cripple...

"Get up and toil. Thou art fit for work."

"For verily I say unto thee, thy scrounging days are over".

 

[goldenecitrone]

Get thee on workfare Lazarus, you layabout.

 

[goldenecitrone]

And Tesco did emply one thousand dead people to stack their shelves over Easter.

 

[DotCommunist]

'Blessed are the meek, for they shall work for nothing'

 

[ViolentPanda]

ennit, what about Disraeli

Tories don't tend to count him because he was baptised into the C of E as a child, and therefore washed clean of most of the Heebie-Jeebies that taint the rest of the Chosen People (TM Moses).

 

[littlebabyjesus]

For Jesus did see that the moneylenders had done wrong, and that their coffers lay empty. So he filled them up again.

 

[ViolentPanda]

No but there's a worrying correlation between the two IME.

Of course some pagans are not fascist or racist in any way. Some of them are just your common-or-garden twats.

I'd say that a majority of neo-Pagans aren't any more fascist or racist than your average person on the street, and I've met an awful lot of neo-Pagans.
I've also met racist, fascist "blood and soil" types from the Odinic Rite. The majority of them were and are boneheads who are Odinists because they think Christianity is weak, whereas fantasising about carving the Blood Eagle onto a non-white is seemingly strong.

 

[DotCommunist]

'take up thy bed and work, or forget about the loaves and fishes'

 

[Dr Jon]

"thou shalt not eat from the tree of knowledge" sayeth the Lord, "for it is only a population of the clueless that allows me to keep this scam going..."

 

[ViolentPanda]

I'd be happy with 'cricketing nation', to distinguish us from the non cricket-playing barbarian lands found elsewhere.

Pffft.
"Parliament-destroying nation" has a much better ring to it.

 

[SpookyFrank]

tell us more about looking down on people, please.

When I do it it's perfectly justified because I'm awesome. More importantly I don't think that those who disagree with me on this point are gonna spend eternity being tortured in the fires of hell.

 

[SpookyFrank]

And when I blow people up it's for fun, not because some big bearded cunt in the sky told me to.

 

[killer b]

More importantly I don't think that those who disagree with me on this point are gonna spend eternity being tortured in the fires of hell.

you don't actually know any religious people do you? or at least, haven't spoken to them about their beliefs? no-one (well, only a tiny minority) actually believes this in practice.

 

[SpookyFrank]

you don't actually know any religious people do you? or at least, haven't spoken to them about their beliefs? no-one (well, only a tiny minority) actually believes this in practice.

Well whatever they believe in it's a load of old shit so the specifics are neither here nor there. Of course I don't actually say these things to religious people when I talk to them, in the same way that when they talk to me they don't actually say that they know I'm going to hell, but they're fucking thinking it all the same.

 

[killer b]

they aren't.

 

[SpookyFrank]

they aren't.

Oh right well I guess all those books are just glorified doorstops then. Odd that they make such a fuss about them in that case.

 

[youngian]

You know, this is the sort of thing one might expect from an American Republican politician.

Up to a point Lord Copper. The US constitution is founded on the principle of seperation of church and state. Although many, but not all, who founded this secular state were privately very religous. It says a lot about intellectual shallowness of the Tory swivel eyed loons, like Pickels and Warsi, that they believe the concept of secular disestablishment is 'militant athiesm'. Interesting most of these characters also believe British citizens' right to freedom of religion laid down in the ECHR should be done away with. Magna Carta, did she die in vein?

Even Tony Blair wasn't keen on this speech by Cameron which was really just a wooley pitch for maintaining Anglican state hegemony which he first learned from his Tory chaplain at public school.

 

[likesfish]

Because the founding farthers didnt want a church of america which could ruin the life of anyone who wasnt a member as the c of e did in its less cuddly days

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Oh right well I guess all those books are just glorified doorstops then. Odd that they make such a fuss about them in that case.

I think you're falling into the trap that many of us non-believers fall into - the trap of taking religion more seriously than most believers do.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I think you're falling into the trap that many of us non-believers fall into - the trap of taking religion more seriously than most believers do.

When religion stops getting people killed I'll stop taking it seriously.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Because the founding farthers didnt want a church of america which could ruin the life of anyone who wasnt a member as the c of e did in its less cuddly days

Jefferson had many good things to say on the subject of religious freedom in general, although the Americans did what they usually do which is build a big statue of the bloke then immediately forget everything he ever said or did.

 

[killer b]

When religion stops getting people killed I'll stop taking it seriously.

people kill people and justify it however they please.

 

[kabbes]

Oh right well I guess all those books are just glorified doorstops then. Odd that they make such a fuss about them in that case.

Hellfire isn't in the Bible, is it? I thought it was a later church invention.

 

[DotCommunist]

revelation speaks of the etarnal torments,the wiling and gnashing ofteeth

 

[butchersapron]

Hellfire isn't in the Bible, is it? I thought it was a later church invention.

Nope. To the latter.

 

[kabbes]

revelation speaks of the etarnal torments,the wiling and gnashing ofteeth

Good old St John, eh?

 

[kabbes]

Nope. To the latter.

Fair enough

 

[butchersapron]

Fair enough

The idea was further developed and refined later on though - made useful if you know what i mean.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Those Zoroastrians have a lot to answer for.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

revelation speaks of the etarnal torments,the wiling and gnashing ofteeth

It's a coded message about visiting the dentist every 6 months, nowt to down with hell at all...