AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
No, doesn't want to be. At least not for the moment, because after tweeting that statement he tweeted another saying that he's going to continue presenting as he's always done and continue using the he/him/his pronouns.
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Almost zero cases of rape result in a conviction, but somehow shitloads of people get raped all the time.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Yes the phrase "for the time being" was used. Reading only slightly between the lines, I dont think he wants to transition whilst an MP, although his stance may evolve in future. It also sounds a bit like he may only intend to serve one term in office.
Haha! If you say so pal - I've never made any claims about my intelligence! We're all fools - it's just that some don't realise it yet.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
well that escalated slowly
but surely he was a little old to be looking for a suger daddy
:hmm :
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Are you gay if you have never undertaken ‘gay acts’? Of course you can, so what’s the difference here?
He’s said he has experienced dysmorphia since he was a child, that his gender is not the one assigned at birth. That’s being trans
Sasaferrato
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Would you use that statement with regard to anyone who has been raped, or only people whose politics you disagree with?
bendeus
Bellend Tagline Generator
I'd raise an eyebrow for anybody who has made their way in life through exploitation of others, has a history of lying, whose past actions have outed them as a bit of a scumbag and who has a lot to gain through distortion of the truth.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
You're assigned a sex at birth, not a gender.
And it's gender dysphoria.
Not convinced about the gay analogy tbh. And is he trans if he just says he has dysphoria? There's not need to do anything at all more than that to be trans? So he's a transwoman you think now?
there's no dilemma here, though it's a useful way of showing the limits of some people's principles.
Sasaferrato
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Doesn't really answer my question. Not only doesn't it answer my question, it is absolutely symptomatic of the problems faced by people who have been raped, and directly links to the appalling conviction rates for rape. If someone states that they have been raped, then they have been raped.
You're excused from the jury
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
If the SNP have their way, all I will have to do to become a woman, and gain entry to women only spaces, is state that I identify as a woman. I wouldn't even need to shave off my beard and moustache.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Quite right on para 1, my bad.
On two tho - that’s pretty much what the arguments over the last 5+ years have been about, hadn’t it? Not needing to get ‘official’ approval and agreement.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Begins with B, rhymes with ollocks
bendeus
Bellend Tagline Generator
I was under the impression that most people who are raped are disbelieved because they're vulnerable, expendable, female, powerless, victims of prejudice or the patriarchy and/or have the justice system stacked against them [delete as appropriate]
From the mouth of a lying, exploitative individual in the highest position of power whose career depends on dodging a charge that he looks pretty guilty of and who's subsequent behaviour would under any other circumstances look like he was trying to evade justice I'm going to reserve my right to suspicion. To be clear, I'm not saying he's lying but I'm not saying he's not.
girasol
Addicted to handstands!
I don't know, hence I'm confused. But in my mind trans was someone who had transitioned. I'm probably going to get cancelled/sneered at/misinterpreted/misjudged just for being confused...
andysays
Love and solidarity
Just to clarify, what he actually said in his statement today is that he has been diagnosed with gender dysphoria and he has felt this way since he was a very young child. He hasn't explicitly said his gender is not the one assigned at birth, unless that's somewhere else in another statement.
And assuming all that's correct, I think describing himself as trans is OK.
I kind of understand that people are skeptical about a Tory MP making statements like this, but we can still criticise him for what he is politically, and for what he appears to have done fleeing the scene of an accident, without questioning whether he's really 'proper trans', or whether he's really been raped.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
That's absolute nonsense, and I'm being polite here.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Pretty straightforward, I'd have thought. Even Tory cunts can have bad shit in their lives. The bad shit makes him no less a Tory cunt though.Trans but Tory.
A proper dilemma for the Urban woke brigade!
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Trans covers both transgender and transsexual. Although those two terms are sometimes used interchangeably, as a rule TS is someone who has transitioned and TG is someone who hasn’t. Both are still trans
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
It doesn’t matter if he has one, he still is one
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Spot on. Although it’s less easy to understand how you can have bad stuff happen throughout your life and remain a Tory cunt though. His politics are fucking wretched.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Basically he's exactly the same cunt as he was before isn't he. Not more or less because he happens to be trans.
Pretty simple tbh.
Pretty simple tbh.
girasol
Addicted to handstands!
That makes sense as both start with "trans". So, I'm now unconfused. Thank you.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
No. It is not. If the bill goes through, then self-identification will be legal.
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