BREXIT Crunch time (part 38) WTF is going to happen next?

[maomao]

So is No Deal off the table now?

Won't be off the table unless they get a bill requiring to revoke as an alternative. It's always the default.

 

[Argonia]

Oh OK I thought the Cooper Bill took it off the table but maybe not. Fuck I'm exhausted with this, I can't imagine would it be like to actually try to deal with this as a policy.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Oh OK I thought the Cooper Bill took it off the table but maybe not. Fuck I'm exhausted with this, I can't imagine would it be like to actually try to deal with this as a policy.

Easy. Just nationalise everything.

We did it in the war!

No deal won't happen though.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Won't be off the table unless they get a bill requiring to revoke as an alternative. It's always the default.

This is the thing they've all been dancing around, isn't it. They all know the only way to guarantee no deal is to advocate revoke in its stead, but they're mostly scared to say it out loud.

 

[Humberto]

What does this mean? The side socialists should be taking is the side of the working class, that means the not picking one team of capital over another.

That is what I was trying to express I think, although fair cop.

 

[Mr Moose]

That is what I was trying to express I think, although fair cop.

I suspect it hasn’t helped you much with Brexit though.

 

[chilango]

Presumably if they do get "confirmatory vote" attached to May's deal we'll get to resoundingly reject it too?

...and then what?

 

[Pickman's model]

That is what I was trying to express I think, although fair cop.

acab

 

[danny la rouge]

Oh OK I thought the Cooper Bill took it off the table but maybe not. Fuck I'm exhausted with this, I can't imagine would it be like to actually try to deal with this as a policy.

 

[redsquirrel]

Presumably if they do get "confirmatory vote" attached to May's deal we'll get to resoundingly reject it too?

...and then what?

We go back to "what worked before", when "we were getting on pretty well".

That is what I was trying to express I think, although fair cop.

OK. I just wasn't quite sure what you were saying.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Presumably if they do get "confirmatory vote" attached to May's deal we'll get to resoundingly reject it too?

...and then what?

Schools get every Thursday off as we go back for vote after vote, surely? Only reasonable response, I think.

 

[Mr Moose]

We go back to "what worked before", when "we were getting on pretty well".

OK. I just wasn't quite sure what you were saying.

I’m glad you got it. I didn’t.

 

[Pickman's model]

Schools get every Thursday off as we go back for vote after vote, surely? Only reasonable response, I think.

School week divided in two, mon to weds, fri-sat

Thousands flee teaching

 

[Cid]

Oh OK I thought the Cooper Bill took it off the table but maybe not. Fuck I'm exhausted with this, I can't imagine would it be like to actually try to deal with this as a policy.

It’s because no deal isn’t under anyone’s control. The cooper bill might (not sure specifically how it operates)mean they must request a long extension, but the eu can still turn it down.

 

[Crispy]

HoC suspended because water is flooding in from a leak

 

[Argonia]

Vicki Young of the BBC said it might be sewage.

 

[cupid_stunt]

HoC suspended because water is flooding in from a leak

The ship is sinking.

 

[eatmorecheese]

Vicki Young of the BBC said it might be sewage.

Yep, tends to leak out of the place rather than in. Usually.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It’s because no deal isn’t under anyone’s control. The cooper bill might (not sure specifically how it operates)mean they must request a long extension, but the eu can still turn it down.

That's not strictly true. The govt and parliament can together avoid no deal by revoking. First, they should march off to the EU to request an extension with the solemn threat, expressed in the severest of terms, that they will abandon the whole thing if the EU turns them down.

 

[gosub]

Presumably if they do get "confirmatory vote" attached to May's deal we'll get to resoundingly reject it too?

...and then what?

Re education camps

 

[Mr Moose]

Vicki Young of the BBC said it might be sewage.

Maybe MPs are just producing bilge.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Video here - Parliament flooded as huge leak forces MPs to evacuate Commons | Metro News

You might say that so far, Brexit negotiations have been a washout. But today it literally started pouring with water in the House of Commons due to a suspected burst pipe in the ceiling. The session has now been suspended and MPs have evacuated the space after reportedly trying to carry on talking over the flood.

 

[Steel Icarus]

That last line
*Mic drop*

 

[maomao]

I thought Osbourne had fixed the roof while the sun was shining?

 

[philosophical]

Was it Major who said it is better to have the bastards inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in?

 

[editor]

I'm sure it's already been posted but it's worth a report. Click to read the whole thread.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I'm sure it's already been posted but it's worth a report. Click to read the whole thread.

That leaflet that nobody read is the best argument against this, I think. It laid out various alternatives to EU membership, one of which was explicitly the Norway model, and argued that none of the options was as good as what we have now. That was from the 'remain' govt. From the leave side, as blokey here points out, there was endless bullshit about 'easy' trade deals, pretty much all of which has turned out to be total bollocks.

It's a fucking tiresome argument, tbh. Wankers claiming to speak for the minds of 17.4 million people on the basis of which box they put a cross in once in response to a very short, simple, detail-free question.

 

[andysays]

That's not strictly true. The govt and parliament can together avoid no deal by revoking. First, they should march off to the EU to request an extension with the solemn threat, expressed in the severest of terms, that they will abandon the whole thing if the EU turns them down.

The Cooper bill doesn't give government or parliament to authority to revoke A50 though, only to force the PM to ask for an extension .

For whatever reason (I can suggest a few if necessary), the Cooper bill stops well short of doing what you suggest.

 

[Supine]

It's all kicking off on twatter

 

[Lord Camomile]

These guys are very good