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yeh it's a matter of opinion that you should acquaint yourself with a) how the tinge comment came about and b) what people said about it here. you don't seem to share that opinion.
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and she's now fair game to have it used against her at any opportunity. Umunna, for all his dreadful politics, is not.
perhaps. Or perhaps the term simply should not become part of conversation (except about Smith) and then there's no need for any justifications at all.
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it doesn't convey either of those things.
Really have no fucking clue what the next move will be. Don't know what she will tweak this time so Bercow lets her bring the vote back. Attaching it to second ref, or GE if it fails? Not so many more options for her outside of revoking, on Friday I got the impression she won't allow no deal, she didn't even use her old threat anymore after mv3 failed.
The change.org lot can fuck off as well.
The change.org lot can fuck off as well.
Kaka Tim
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on their very first day of existing, on national tv, their main spokesperson coined a brand new racist term and then had to frantically back peddle. ergo -closet racists and fuckwits.
Cid
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That's partly the point i think, it's not something that needs any more attention that it already has... Even if it's just some randoms googling after hearing someone say it. It's the risk of a kind of steady trickle of far right language into every day speech.
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I think I'd normally be comfortable with tinge, it's just throwing her racism back at her (as for the grand wizards of the tories), it's just the Chukka aspect that makes it... uncomfortable.
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sorry but repeating that doesn't change the word, its obvious connotations or its unacceptability. I don't suppose anyone here actually want to make a racial point but that is the way it comes across.
The potential misunderstanding here isn't that you're calling them racists though, it's that the casual reader might think you're being racist.
andysays
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no. Again, I'm sorry to disagree but it's not throwing anything at her at all. It's throwing around a term that is clearly associated with a group fronted by a mixed race man. And it's not intended in any sort of complimentary fashion.
C'mon. If it was racist when she used it how is it somehow different when used by others. Please don't tell me about reclaiming N words and that. This is a new coinage that could become the description of choice about that group. How is using it a good thing?
kebabking
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i think what you're trying to say here is that you didn't pay close enough attention and therefore didn't get the joke, and that when you asked what it meant - because you didn't know, because you hadn't been paying attention - you felt a bit foolish. so instead of saying, 'oh, ok, got you', you got the hump about being made to look like you don't pay much attention, and are going down a rabbit hole where you want to make people feel uncomfortable about using the joke rather than focussing on you being a thin-skinned humourless twat who doesn't pay attention.
have i got that about right?
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cupid_stunt
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I think you mean Change UK, unless you have an objection to the well established petition website known as change.org, which are objecting to the Tiggers using their proposed new name, due to any confusion with their website.
ETA: Even one of the Tiggers referred to their new name as change.org, so you can see that change.org has a very valued point in objecting to the cunts' changing their name to Change.
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yeh there wouldn't be any point to using a term clearly not associated with the tiggers. and you've made noises about the tiggers being fronted by a mixed race man, but adduced fuck all evidence except a very equivocal google search.
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no.
I'll accept I want to make people here uncomfortable about using a term that has racial overtones.
The rest of it, I couldn't care less if people here realise I haven't spent 24 hours a day reading here every word of of these threads, that I don't think racial 'jokes' are funny, or that you think I'm a twat.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
or, it could be a pun based on the incredulity of a political party that claims its closer to 'what real peaople want' having failed to notice that there's already a large, hugely popular organisation already in existance that has that name.
which is almost as funny as the tinge thing.
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they'd got a quote from a glazier first and it was very dear to replace the windows.I
Opening the window first.fucking liberals.
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no one wants you to spend so much time here, which is why they have helped you out with the whys and wherefores and the occasional link.
Lord Camomile
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Whilst I go along with the "throwing her racism back at her", alongside highlighting the disingenuous nature of their formation, I must admit I have started to feel uncomfortable using it too, and not really because of Umunna. I'm just starting to get a bit wary of using language in an 'ironic' fashion, and even if most of us had never used "tinge" in that way before, the truth of the matter is that in this context it comes from a racist place, and I'm not sure how comfortable I am then repeating its use.
Possibly a bit too liberal, hand-wringy, but I've reverted to just calling them Tiggers, or the like.
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i've been using 'tigger' mostly myself but it feels wrong to give them a 'cuddly' name when they're such a bunch of arrant wankers.
tigger should remain the name of the tiger in winnie the pooh and not be associated with such nefandous scum as the cabal formerly known as the independent group
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Basically that's general election, isn't it?
andysays
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As I said above, I reckon a positive vote for something, anything, last night could have been enough, but it's hard to see much beyond a GE being acceptable now.
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