BREXIT Crunch time (part 38) WTF is going to happen next?

[Pickman's model]

Won't they vote no?

now? yes. coming up to h-hour on 12 april? maybe they'll think differently.

 

[newbie]

Yes, Angela Smith can.

did she coin it? In any case that doesn't explain why people here are using it.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Won't they vote no?

This just in from parliament: "No we will not!"

 

[Pickman's model]

did she coin it? In any case that doesn't explain why people here are using it.

perhaps you should go back to the beginning and catch up as you seem to have missed some important episodes.

 

[Crispy]

From the ECJ ruling:

105. Although not exactly the same situation as that described in the preceding paragraph, if, as a result of action carried out in accordance with its constitutional requirements (for example, a referendum, a meaningful vote in Parliament, the holding of general elections which produce an opposing majority, among other cases), the Member State’s initial decision is reversed and the judicial and constitutional basis on which it was sustained subsequently disappears, I also believe that it is logical, in line with Article 50(1) TEU, that that State can and must notify that change to the European Council.

 

[Steel Icarus]

now? yes. coming up to h-hour on 12 april? maybe they'll think differently.

Maybe? Trouble. Maybe not? Trouble.

This really is shaping up, oddly, to be both endlessly tedious and yet clearly interesting times.

 

[danny la rouge]

 

[killer b]

did she coin it? In any case that doesn't explain why people here are using it.

Angela Smith, in an interview on the very first day of their existence as a group driven out of Labour by racism, spoke of people with a 'funny tinge', which is where the term has come from.

I agree people shouldn't use it, but more because comedy names for political parties are painfully unfunny than any other reason.

 

[Wilf]

I said fronted by not led by quite deliberately, you know.

And why do you think the term is being used (in this particular case)?

 

[Sprocket.]

did she coin it? In any case that doesn't explain why people here are using it.

Research Angela Smith around the 18th February.

 

[Pickman's model]

Maybe? Trouble. Maybe not? Trouble.

This really is shaping up, oddly, to be both endlessly tedious and yet clearly interesting times.

i don't think revoking a.50 will end this! it will just start the next phase of this intriguing drama

 

[danny la rouge]

did she coin it? In any case that doesn't explain why people here are using it.

It was a remarkable faux pas on the day of their inception. She said “people with a funny Tinge”, then had to reverse.

 

[killer b]

If Boles stands as an independent at the next election then he could campaign with the other independents, and call it CUK and BOLES.

Stephen Bush got in first with this:

 

[kebabking]

did she coin it? In any case that doesn't explain why people here are using it.

One of the no-hopers/heroes of democracy got herself into a fluster at their first press conference. She was talking about people of all colours and heritages having a place (or something, it was the standard waffle people use when they've little to say and a lot of time to do it in...), and instead of 'colours' she used the word 'tinges'. That, added to their tediously long name, meant they became the Tinge...

I like it, it's deliciously dismissive.

 

[newbie]

Angela Smith, in an interview on the very first day of their existence as a group driven out of Labour by racism, spoke of people with a 'funny tinge', which is where the term has come from.

I agree people shouldn't use it, but more because comedy names for political parties are painfully unfunny than any other reason.

thankyou, I didn't know that.

So a dog whistle has been picked up by people here in some sort of clever-clever ironic way and everyone is supposed to be in on the 'joke'. Well done.

 

[Pickman's model]

thankyou, I didn't know that.

So a dog whistle has been picked up by people here in some sort of clever-clever ironic way and everyone is supposed to be in on the 'joke'. Well done.

have a read so you can catch on the backstory Chuka Umunna resigns from Labour party and launches Independent Group

 

[Pickman's model]

thankyou, I didn't know that.

So a dog whistle has been picked up by people here in some sort of clever-clever ironic way and everyone is supposed to be in on the 'joke'. Well done.

so by dog whistle you mean that la smith is trying to signal something to certain people? not sure you're on the ball here

 

[kebabking]

thankyou, I didn't know that.

So a dog whistle has been picked up by people here in some sort of clever-clever ironic way and everyone is supposed to be in on the 'joke'. Well done.

It wasn't a dog whistle, it was AS having a tongue-tied, foot-in-mouth, laughing-at-a-funeral moment. She was flustered, visibly emotional and obviously upset and her words came out wrong.

Calling them the Tinge is both a piss take and a political comment on them being a bit 'meh...'.

 

[killer b]

thankyou, I didn't know that.

So a dog whistle has been picked up by people here in some sort of clever-clever ironic way and everyone is supposed to be in on the 'joke'. Well done.

it seems to be fairly widespread elsewhere tbf. I don't think it was a dogwhistle so much as a racist slip of the tongue though fwiw.

 

[newbie]

so by dog whistle you mean that la smith is trying to signal something to certain people? not sure you're on the ball here

I don't know whether I'm on a ball or not. I'm just telling you how I'm seeing it. Which is that the moniker is what I'd expect to find on some alt-right board, not here.

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't know whether I'm on a ball or not. I'm just telling you how I'm seeing it. Which is that the moniker is what I'd expect to find on some alt-right board, not here.

no no, tell me more about this dog whistle from angela smith, who was she signalling to?

 

[Kaka Tim]

Dunno if it got a mention already by the way but Paisley Jr threw out the 'Never, Never' line - got less of a reaction than he probably expected.

taking the name of Bushmills in vein

 

[Pickman's model]

taking the name of Bushmills in vein

at least he didn't bring a hundred pipers with him

 

[danny la rouge]

I don't know whether I'm on a ball or not. I'm just telling you how I'm seeing it. Which is that the moniker is what I'd expect to find on some alt-right board, not here.

The irony was a woman left Labour because she said they were racist, then in her one day in the spotlight said something racist. A very weird racist thing, too. It’s not a term I’ve ever heard before.

At that point the party-in-waiting had no name. Even TIG hadn’t caught on. So of course Lunatic Tinge did. Later shortened to Tinge. It has nothing to do with Chukka. It’s to do with an inept moron giving away something she didn’t intend to.

 

[killer b]

I think newbie has a point tbf: if a nickname for a political party has to be explained with reference to a minor political slip up that most people aren't really aware of to make it seem not-racist, it's not really a very good nickname.

 

[killer b]

A very weird racist thing, too. It’s not a term I’ve ever heard before.

I think she was trying to paraphrase something Ash Sarkar had said earlier in the conversation.

 

[newbie]

it seems to be fairly widespread elsewhere tbf. I don't think it was a dogwhistle so much as a racist slip of the tongue though fwiw.

fair enough. Thankyou again, I respect your position on this.

A racist slip of the tongue can be used against her over and over again as she deserves it.

To me it's not big and it's not clever to use it here against a bunch of people with a mixed race man as one of their most prominent speakers.

 

[danny la rouge]

I think newbie has a point tbf: if a nickname for a political party has to be explained with reference to a minor political slip up that most people aren't really aware of to make it seem not-racist, it's not really a very good nickname.

If indeed people aren’t aware of it, then that’s true. Until now I’ve not been involved in a conversation about them and had to explain it. But that’s probably because I’d only discuss them with other anoraks.

 

[Pickman's model]

I think newbie has a point tbf: if a nickname for a political party has to be explained with reference to a minor political slip up that most people aren't really aware of to make it seem not-racist, it's not really a very good nickname.

quite a few people noticed it at the time tbh Internet turns a 'funny tinge' as people mock Independent group | Metro News

 

[newbie]

It has nothing to do with Chukka.

so you say despite that being very obviously not the case, except to clever-clever sophisticates.