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BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff

Peter Painter said:
I've been thinking about this some more. I still think that both are important but on reflection I think that you're right to place more emphasis upon how something is received than upon how it is intended.

However, I still think that intention is crucial in establishing the context. I would disagree with anybody who argues that intention is wholly irrelevant. I think that that mode of thought contains within it the seeds of a new fascism.
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You can have the noblest of intentions and still end up causing massive offence.
 
equationgirl said:
You can have the noblest of intentions and still end up causing massive offence.
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Yes, indeed, this is very true. But if whoever it is who has taken offence also has noble intentions the unfortunate situation can be easily resolved. I imagine that this would probably involve an apology and possibly some discussion.

For me the real problem is those people who don't care if they cause offence. Or worse, those who are actively seeking to offend.
 
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redsquirrel said:
This times infinity.

The wellbeing agenda is pretty dodgy. My employer took mental health out of the responsibility of OHS (where unions still have a relatively strong presence) and put it under the control of HR.
So we have gone from a situation where mental health was considered at a collective level and in respect to working conditions to one where it is an individuals responsibility to ensure their wellbeing. So no more consideration about excessive workloads now it is about knitting/colouring/calm rooms

Fuck that shite!
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Reminds of seeing this cartoon during the last round of UCU strikes:
 
DaphneM said:
she seems to make specific positive points about Brewdog, as per Teuchters post as opposed to more general points about toxic cultures in your post.
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LOL. Her post is specifically about Brewdog. It is not positive.
Go troll elsewhere.
 
She says she wants Brewdog to succeed, and that it can be great. She wants to see it change and doesn't want a boycott.

You lot are trying to twist her sensible words to fit with your extreme views.
 
DaphneM said:
what was emma shearer claiming? I didn't see anything in the tweet that was specific?
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Does it have to be specific to be valid? She explains clearly why she isn't more specific in her tweet.

I know this is a lengthy thread but you would do yourself a favour if you read more of it.
 
seeformiles said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Brewdog flouted US laws over beer imports

The Scottish beer giant shipped hundreds of kegs of beer to America which had not been legally approved.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Once again the company has been caught out putting its workers under undue pressure in the name of fat profits for themselves. What a scummy company they are..

Scottish beer giant Brewdog sent multiple shipments of beer to the US, in contravention of US federal laws, a BBC investigation has found.
Staff at its Ellon brewery told the BBC they were put under pressure in 2016 and 2017 to ship beer with ingredients that had not been legally approved.
One US-based importer said they had been deceived by Brewdog.
In a social media post on Wednesday, Brewdog CEO James Watt admitted to "taking shortcuts" with the process.
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not-bono-ever said:
that equity for punks offering might not be such a winner if they have uncle sam on their case
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The TTB told the BBC that a three-year statute of limitations prevented any enforcement action being taken, and in any case, it would have to have been initiated against the US-based importer, who is legally responsible for the shipments.
 
DaphneM said:
The TTB told the BBC that a three-year statute of limitations prevented any enforcement action being taken, and in any case, it would have to have been initiated against the US-based importer, who is legally responsible for the shipments.
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Would that be the importer who said that they had been "deceived by Brewdog"?
What's your thoughts on the staff that were put under pressure to push through illegal shipments?
 
It's started kicking off before the documentary has been shown:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">James Watt is desperately trying to pre-empt next week&#39;s BBC exposè by yet again lying about and gaslighting the people he abused.<br><br>I resigned from Brewdog because James and the bar division wilfully endangerered the health of myself and my team. Please add to and RT. <a href="https://t.co/m2JNiYxuaj">pic.twitter.com/m2JNiYxuaj</a></p>&mdash; Ben Duckworth (@DuckTakes) <a href="">January 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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