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Beating the Fascists: The authorised history of Anti-Fascist Action
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Joe Reilly
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Either he isn't who he claims he is, or he is but dosen't know what he's talking about. Not exclusive positions. Here is someone who claims he does know what he's talking about, though some would question that as well.
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Nice one
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good website
http://beatingthefascists.org/wordpress/
the isbn needs changing though
ISBN: 978-1-904491-12-5
http://beatingthefascists.org/wordpress/
the isbn needs changing though
ISBN: 978-1-904491-12-5
gawkrodger
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picked this up on Saturday and just finished it.
Excellent book and as already suggested, just the right mix of intelligent political analysis and street recollections.
oh, and has previously been mentioned,
at the Mossad story 
Excellent book and as already suggested, just the right mix of intelligent political analysis and street recollections.
oh, and has previously been mentioned,
at the Mossad story Hi Nice One,
how did it go at the bookfair... did ye sell many copies of BTF?
what kind of reaction did it get?
any old bollocks aimed at Freedom on the day (for publishing it)?
TopCat
Putin fanboy
There was a bit of a misunderstanding between one old comrade and people at Freedom, easily sorted. Lots of people were reading away.
That's a very diplomatic and grown up post TC...
I have to say I found the book refreshingly short on personal stuff too...
let's hope it's catching
TopCat
Putin fanboy
I did like many others, dip straight to the sections of the book concerning events where I was actually there. Given that the reporting of these was spot on accurate, the credibility of the rest of the book was immediately enhanced and confirmed.
The book did raise a critique of a daft "lets go get 'em" attempt to go and confront the fash at Bressenden Place (taking people away from an AFA action in Trafalgar Square) in 1985 I think. I er, was largely responsible but the criticism was nothing new. I was quite young at the time and had my ears bent by several RA people around that time. We live and learn eh! I also winced at the description of uncontrollable anarchist elements at Waterloo. (Blush).
The book did raise a critique of a daft "lets go get 'em" attempt to go and confront the fash at Bressenden Place (taking people away from an AFA action in Trafalgar Square) in 1985 I think. I er, was largely responsible but the criticism was nothing new. I was quite young at the time and had my ears bent by several RA people around that time. We live and learn eh! I also winced at the description of uncontrollable anarchist elements at Waterloo. (Blush).
Nice one
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okay shopping cart's officially up and running
http://www.freedompress.org.uk/public/book.oml%3FbookId=196.html
http://www.freedompress.org.uk/public/book.oml%3FbookId=196.html
great. But you never answered my post #487
Nice one
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went well. Around 128 copies sold on the day. Reaction was overwhelingly positive, except for two people.
"bit of a misunderstanding between one old comrade" meant he blanked me on the day, although was fully expecting a frank exchange of words in the pub afterwards. Given the fact he engineered the bulk of the snidey misinformation on the indymedia thread, i'd say things are far from sorted.
The other was more emotional blackmail - disappointed in a repected political publishers deciding to publish certain "lies" thus tainting the good name of freedom press, not to be trusted, betrayal etc.
Got an incredulous "thought you were supposed to be pacifists" and a lot of stocky middle aged blokes buying the book and immediately turning to the index - just in case
I imagine any bollocks we get will continue in the form of internet gossip - the only thing keeping the anarchist movement going.
went well. Around 128 copies sold on the day. Reaction was overwhelingly positive, except for two people.
"bit of a misunderstanding between one old comrade" meant he blanked me on the day, although was fully expecting a frank exchange of words in the pub afterwards. Given the fact he engineered the bulk of the snidey misinformation on the indymedia thread, i'd say things are far from sorted.
The other was more emotional blackmail - disappointed in a repected political publishers deciding to publish certain "lies" thus tainting the good name of freedom press, not to be trusted, betrayal etc.
Got an incredulous "thought you were supposed to be pacifists" and a lot of stocky middle aged blokes buying the book and immediately turning to the index - just in case
I imagine any bollocks we get will continue in the form of internet gossip - the only thing keeping the anarchist movement going.
and the left
gawkrodger
Well-Known Member
I assume there's going top be an option for buying wholesale?
love detective
there's no love too small
you should come to us for that
cheers for that, I shall be putting my order in asap
love detective
there's no love too small
You can now buy the book online from the IWCA through the beating the fascists site
http://beatingthefascists.org/
http://beatingthefascists.org/
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Has it been reviewed anywhere yet?
love detective
there's no love too small
not properly/independently no
the marketing/publicity side of things (in terms of getting it out of the left milieu) has been a bit slow to be fair
the marketing/publicity side of things (in terms of getting it out of the left milieu) has been a bit slow to be fair
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
I wasn't really expecting a couple of pages in a Guardian supplement! I meant more like blogs and the like.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Just picking up on Nigel Irritables question of reviews of the book.
Ironically in the early 1980s there was an excellent book about the KPD and anti fascism called also Beating the fascists. It made grim reading at times not just the levels of day to day violence that the KPD both inflicted and received but in that at the back of the readers mind there was the knowledge that they knew the end of the story.
Beating the fascist-the untold history of anti fascist action has a different end , one that we can all be thankful for. However I was wondering what the SWP/Militant view of the book will be? Interwoven into the book is a very firm political position which directly confronts the orthodox Trot position expounded by both organisations and their offshoots.
Here is Harmans review of the German book : http://www.marxists.org/archive/harman/1984/03/squad.htm ( it is written in 1984 and starts of somewhat unpromisingly that 'the fight against fascism is not a priority for revolutionary socialist in Britain at the moment') Will the Trots is they review the book come out with a similar defence ?
Ironically in the early 1980s there was an excellent book about the KPD and anti fascism called also Beating the fascists. It made grim reading at times not just the levels of day to day violence that the KPD both inflicted and received but in that at the back of the readers mind there was the knowledge that they knew the end of the story.
Beating the fascist-the untold history of anti fascist action has a different end , one that we can all be thankful for. However I was wondering what the SWP/Militant view of the book will be? Interwoven into the book is a very firm political position which directly confronts the orthodox Trot position expounded by both organisations and their offshoots.
Here is Harmans review of the German book : http://www.marxists.org/archive/harman/1984/03/squad.htm ( it is written in 1984 and starts of somewhat unpromisingly that 'the fight against fascism is not a priority for revolutionary socialist in Britain at the moment') Will the Trots is they review the book come out with a similar defence ?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Rosenhafts Beating the Fascists? was recently republished btw
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
I probably would have brought a copy if hadn't been £20...
love detective
there's no love too small
I doubt they'll even officially acknowledge its existence - easier that way
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