Ban on smoking in cars carrying children backed by Lords

[Yelkcub]

Seems like a reasonable one to ignore if you're not pissing off a non-smoker who's in the van with you.

Apart from the stench if someone else has to use the van after.

 

[WouldBe]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25939908

Do we need a law on this?

It might be quite difficult to enforce.

Just another attack on smokers perhaps.

What is next, no smoking in your own home?

Just strap the kids to the roof rack.

 

[DotCommunist]

Apart from the stench if someone else has to use the van after.

if your using a van over 5 years old the stank of nicotine is engraved into the very furniture. Smells like victory.

 

[rutabowa]

it already seems totally mental that families used to all smoke in the living room watching tv etc!
but not a law please.

 

[8ball]

Apart from the stench if someone else has to use the van after.

If it gives them something to whine about and distracts them from leaving notes on fridges then it's a win for everyone.

 

[Teaboy]

The ban on smoking in a work vehicle was always a bit of an odd one and a by-product of the ban in places of work, its bit difficult to legislate for and even harder to enforce.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Apart from the stench if someone else has to use the van after.

But that's not why the law was introduced. Do you really want to legislate for good manners and consideration?

 

[Teaboy]

But that's not why the law was introduced. Do you really want to legislate for good manners and consideration?

But the law wasn't really included for that reason as a work vehicle is accepted as a place of work for various tax reasons it would be hard to have a ban without it affecting vehicles.

 

[DotCommunist]

Sooner or later someone will mount another attempt to ban smoking in jails

 

[8ball]

Sooner or later someone will mount another attempt to ban smoking in jails

They'll be saving that one for the run-up to the election.

 

[Yelkcub]

But that's not why the law was introduced. Do you really want to legislate for good manners and consideration?

But the law wasn't really included for that reason as a work vehicle is accepted as a place of work for various tax reasons it would be hard to have a ban without it affecting vehicles.

Both food for thought.

 

[DotCommunist]

They'll be saving that one for the run-up to the election.

well, tories do love a prison riot...

 

[editor]

Did you say anything?

Oh shush, silly man.

 

[Frances Lengel]

What's the world coming to if a man can't expose his own children to cancer giving fumes in a confined space?

What's the world coming to if a person can't expose other peoples children to carcinogenic fumes belched out of exhaust pipes at just the right height for the little shorties to breath in.

 

[_angel_]

Can I blame my never ending cough on my parents relentless smoking over me everywhere including cars then?

ETA: not to mention smoking being allowed not only on buses but coaches where you couldn't open a window.

 

[editor]

My Mum struggles with emphysema as a result of passive smoking. Fair breaks my heart

 

[Awesome Wells]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25939908

Do we need a law on this?

It might be quite difficult to enforce.

Just another attack on smokers perhaps.

What is next, no smoking in your own home?

Yes, if it means children don't have to suffer because their parents are ignorant.

In reality it is completely unenforceable, just like the cunts who drive around with a phone strapped to their ear.

No doubt people will cry foul tue usual bollocks about the 'poor 'ard done by' motorist and how it's curtailing their freedoms. I don't really care too much about your freedom to behave like an irresponsible dick and if people can't willingly accept these things are dangerous then yes I think there is a case to be made in favour of intervention.

If smoking could be made completey free from passive consequences that would be different.

 

[ruffneck23]

as a smoker, I have no objection to this law although ive never smoked when ive given my god kids a lift in the car, even the thought of it is crazy.

Isnt one of the other places you can legally smoke in is the lord / commons bar in the houses of parliament? If this indeed the case can we please ban it there ?

 

[8ball]

If smoking could be made completey free from passive consequences that would be different.

Guess we'll have to see what happens with the threatened e-cigs legislation...

 

[SarfLondoner]

Sooner or later someone will mount another attempt to ban smoking in jails

I predict a riot.

 

[stowpirate]

I've had endured some horrendous car journeys with smokers who labour under the illusion that all their stinking smoke magically dissipates though a window that's been opened ever-so-slightly.

What's next, no kicking your kids down the stairs?

A car is a much more confined space than a house, I'm a moderate smoker myself and I struggle sitting in a car with someone smoking.

Used to commute to London on them old slam door railway carriages. It was like a smoke house and sometimes children were also confined in those awful cancer inducing confined spaces. Your would smell of smoke all day! This is a good move albeit only as long as none smokers and children have the right to travel in a smoke free environment. If you are a smoker on your own or with other smokers then that should be exempt?

 

[weltweit]

Ok, admissions time. I smoke, and in my car. I don't in my house, but if I owned it I might in my office. My son is 14 now and sometimes I smoke in the car, not often, with him - with the windows open. I know it is not ideal. I never smoked in it when he was smaller.

It is interesting though, in some other countries people still smoke everywhere. I suppose that is progress, but personally if the government / et al want us to stop smoking, they could ban the sale of cigarettes and ban smoking. That would be simple, and frankly it would make it much easier for people like me who would rather not smoke.

 

[stuff_it]

The ban on smoking in a work vehicle was always a bit of an odd one and a by-product of the ban in places of work, its bit difficult to legislate for and even harder to enforce.

Technically it's only if the work vehicle is used by more than one person.

 

[Dr Jon]

These fucking busybodies will ban farting in cars next.

 

[8ball]

It is interesting though, in some other countries people still smoke everywhere. I suppose that is progress, but personally if the government / et al want us to stop smoking, they could ban the sale of cigarettes and ban smoking. That would be simple, and frankly it would make it much easier for people like me who would rather not smoke.

I want the Government to ban pizza because of my expanding waistline.

 

[sim667]

Well considering they've successfully managed to ban and enforce the use of mobile phones in a car, then I'm sure they'll be totally successful at enforcing this law too.

 

[Garek]

It is interesting though, in some other countries people still smoke everywhere. I suppose that is progress, but personally if the government / et al want us to stop smoking, they could ban the sale of cigarettes and ban smoking. That would be simple, and frankly it would make it much easier for people like me who would rather not smoke.

Yes, because prohibition has such a successful proven track record...

 

[albionism]

Sad if it has to become a law.One would hope smokers wouldn't be so thick
and selfish as to smoke in a car carrying children. I'm sure the majority of
smokers would not do so.

 

[Tooter]

if the government / et al want us to stop smoking, they could ban the sale of cigarettes and ban smoking. That would be simple, and frankly it would make it much easier for people like me who would rather not smoke.

If only they had the balls, I'm not sure if the government can afford for people to quit smoking. How much of a gaping hole in tax revenue would that leave? Could the NHS even survive?

 

[8ball]

If only they had the balls, I'm not sure if the government can afford for people to quit smoking. How much of a gaping hole in tax revenue would that leave? Could the NHS even survive?

Survival of the NHS is not part of the plan.