Ban on smoking in cars carrying children backed by Lords

[weltweit]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25939908

Do we need a law on this?

It might be quite difficult to enforce.

Just another attack on smokers perhaps.

What is next, no smoking in your own home?

 

[SpookyFrank]

What's next, no kicking your kids down the stairs?

A car is a much more confined space than a house, I'm a moderate smoker myself and I struggle sitting in a car with someone smoking.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

What's the world coming to if a man can't expose his own children to cancer giving fumes in a confined space?

 

[silverfish]

Also helps with the resale value of the car..

Isn't this just common sense? However, the way that it gets enforced will no doubt be a cluster fuck

Are parents who smoke bad parents? Topic for an epic thread no-doubt




The answer is of course yes

 

[Stanley Edwards]

If you keep the closest window slightly open all the smoke gets sucked straight out of the car

I would never smoke in a car with children. Never do with non-smoking passengers. It is only polite. Anything less is inconsiderate at best.

Sadly, it seems we do actually need a law.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

For once in a very long time, here's a law that's actually based on some sort of common sense. As a ex-smoker myself, I used to puff away on the ciggies when I had a car, but stopped that when I got fed up with stinking up said motor. Even then, I would have thought that smoking in a car full of children was not a good thing, and that has alwasy remained a definitie no-no for me. A shame that this needs to be legislated for, in a way (surely not smoking in a car with kids is plain old common sense?), but I'm certainly not going to start complaining about this one.

 

[Belushi]

My old man taught us to roll cigarettes as kids so we could make them for him while he drove

But yes, on a serious note this is a law I can't object to.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

My old man taught us to roll cigarettes as kids so we could make them for him while he drove

But yes, on a serious note this is a law I can't object to.

Re your first point, I know I shouldn't do this really, but....

 

[DotCommunist]

I sense little johhny and jane may be doing more walking in the near future

 

[8ball]

If you keep the closest window slightly open all the smoke gets sucked straight out of the car

Yeah my Dad used to say this. It's bollocks.

I'm always a bit iffy about this tiresome making of more and more laws but this is harder to object to than a lot of them.
Probably a test case for stopping smoking in the home, though.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It does seem to be a law that isn't really needed - people's behaviour has changed anyway.

 

[8ball]

Are parents who smoke bad parents? Topic for an epic thread no-doubt

The answer is of course yes

Yes, as are parents who have a spliff or a drink while not in a far-removed place with the kids being looked after by a registered babysitter. Child-abuse is what it is.

 

[joustmaster]

smug little blue bastard

 

[MellySingsDoom]

smug little blue bastard

Ha ha ha!

 

[Teaboy]

I can understand why people would be worried about more and more legislation but the opposition to this bill is quite bizarre in some ways. From the BBC article is this:

Conservative peer Lord Cormack argued that any law which "brings the state into the private space of individuals is to be deplored".

We're talking about a car here. There must be hundreds of things you are not allowed by law to do when you are in a car, what a truly bizarre thing to say.

ETA: Clegg's against it btw which means that its probably a good thing and will become law rapidly.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

I sense little johhny and jane may be doing more walking in the near future

Excellent! This law can solve childhood obesity at the same time. It's win/win.

 

[SpookyFrank]

It does seem to be a law that isn't really needed - people's behaviour has changed anyway.

And I would think that the few parents who still routinely smoke with their kids in the car would be the exact same ones who will ignore any change in the law and carry on doing it.

You know, like how the 'no talking on the phone while driving' law doesn't apply if you're driving an Audi?

 

[8ball]

You know, like how the 'no talking on the phone while driving' law doesn't apply if you're driving an Audi?

I think hands-free sets are still allowed aren't they?

 

[SpookyFrank]

I can understand why people would be worried about more and more legislation but the opposition to this bill is quite bizarre in some ways. From the BBC article is this:

Conservative peer Lord Cormack argued that any law which "brings the state into the private space of individuals is to be deplored".

We're talking about a car here. There must be hundreds of things you are not allowed by law to do when you are in a car, what a truly bizarre thing to say.

And not just cars. In the privacy of your own home you're still not allowed to rape and murder people, sell crack cocaine, own slaves, make bombs, issue death threats, keep unlicensed firearms or support Arsenal. Fucking idiotic thing to say.

 

[Yelkcub]

Anyone defending their right to smoke fags in a small space with kids in it is a fucking idiot.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Anyone defending their right to smoke fags in a small space with kids in it is a fucking idiot.

Yes, but how many people do this? Is there a need for a rule saying you can't?

 

[8ball]

Yes, but how many people do this? Is there a need for a rule saying you can't?

MUST. MAKE. LAWS.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

As far as I know, there is no law saying that a four-year-old child must hold the hand of an adult to cross the road. Yet, miraculously, it invariably happens.

 

[xenon]

It does seem to be a law that isn't really needed - people's behaviour has changed anyway.

^ This.

 

[Yelkcub]

Yes, but how many people do this? Is there a need for a rule saying you can't?

I see people smoking in cars with kids in fairly often.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I see people smoking in cars with kids in fairly often.

Fair enough. I don't.

I do, however, see people smoking in work vans fairly often - and this has been against the law for a while.

 

[8ball]

I do, however, see people smoking in work vans fairly often - and this has been against the law for a while.

Seems like a reasonable one to ignore if you're not pissing off a non-smoker who's in the van with you.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Seems like a reasonable one to ignore if you're not pissing off a non-smoker who's in the van with you.

Yes, it does.

 

[editor]

I've had endured some horrendous car journeys with smokers who labour under the illusion that all their stinking smoke magically dissipates though a window that's been opened ever-so-slightly.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I've had endured some horrendous car journeys with smokers who labour under the illusion that all their stinking smoke magically dissipates though a window that's been opened ever-so-slightly.

Did you say anything?