Libertad
Sparking up a rollie in the Reichstag
Out of order pal. Have a word with yourself.
Atos Medicals - Questions, Answers and Support
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Out of order pal. Have a word with yourself.
Ergo Proxy
Well-Known Member
Why?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
So, fuck all of us and "fuck this thread"?
That doesn't leave many reasons for you to legitimately be here. So why don't YOU fuck off, and a find a thread (or a site) more in line with your precious sensibilities?
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Because I suffer from memory loss and it takes me ages to dig out all the information needed to be able to fill the form in as I can't remember what all my problems are let alone dates they were diagnosed.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
I've filled in the basics and sent the form back recorded delivery. I've stated several times on the form that it doesn't give a full view on my problems as they haven't given me enough time to fill the form in. It's really annoying as I got a 2 week extension for my PIP form with no problems. I've told them they will get supporting medical evidence as soon as I can manage it.
What makes their attitude even more shitty is if you have cancer you're supposed to get part of the form filled in by your oncologist. You'd be lucky to get an appointment with in the 4 week deadline let alone get in filled in by then. (possibly doesn't apply to me)
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Fuck you too, you sententious bag of wind.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I've filled in the basics and sent the form back recorded delivery. I've stated several times on the form that it doesn't give a full view on my problems as they haven't given me enough time to fill the form in. It's really annoying as I got a 2 week extension for my PIP form with no problems. I've told them they will get supporting medical evidence as soon as I can manage it.
What makes their attitude even more shitty is if you have cancer you're supposed to get part of the form filled in by your oncologist. You'd be lucky to get an appointment with in the 4 week deadline let alone get in filled in by then. (possibly doesn't apply to me)
I got a reminder letter today - addressed to my late wife AGAIN, although I've told them on THREE separate occasions that she's passed on!
- so just to be annoying, I'll be phoning them on Monday to say "what fucking ESA renewal form, and why was the letter addressed to my late wife, seeing as I informed you last November, and then in February and March that she had died?".
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
They really are incompetent cnuts 
(((VP)))
(((VP)))
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Doesn't mean that people aren't stressed out when it arrives.
This is a thread for support.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
I'M so sorry they're such a bunch of fucking cockwombles VP.I got a reminder letter today - addressed to my late wife AGAIN, although I've told them on THREE separate occasions that she's passed on!
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Send a snotty reply back and tell them if they wan't to know the current status of Ann to get a fucking psychic to fill the form in.I got a reminder letter today - addressed to my late wife AGAIN, although I've told them on THREE separate occasions that she's passed on!
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Looks like the DoJ are turning into a bunch of cockwombles as well. My sister went for her PIP tribunal yesterday and it was cancelled at the last minute as she hadn't sent in copies of all her medical records.
On googling the return address for my ESA50 it appears that Crapimus have taken over the assessment centers from the TOSSers. I've demanded a home visit as I'm currently on laxatives following the problems caused by my PIP face2face with ATOS and said I won't be held responsible for any mess created if they don't agree to a home visit.
Anyone had any experience with crapimus?
On googling the return address for my ESA50 it appears that Crapimus have taken over the assessment centers from the TOSSers. I've demanded a home visit as I'm currently on laxatives following the problems caused by my PIP face2face with ATOS and said I won't be held responsible for any mess created if they don't agree to a home visit.
Anyone had any experience with crapimus?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Looks like the DoJ are turning into a bunch of cockwombles as well. My sister went for her PIP tribunal yesterday and it was cancelled at the last minute as she hadn't sent in copies of all her medical records.
On googling the return address for my ESA50 it appears that Crapimus have taken over the assessment centers from the TOSSers. I've demanded a home visit as I'm currently on laxatives following the problems caused by my PIP face2face with ATOS and said I won't be held responsible for any mess created if they don't agree to a home visit.
Anyone had any experience with crapimus?
Yep. They're pretty much interchangeable with Atos.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
So megashit then?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Fuckers.Yep.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Yeah.
They did my PIP assessment - the one where the "disability analyst" (as he termed himself) did resistance tests on my limbs that took him 3 minutes in total. My consultant physiotherapist took 40 minutes to do the same tests, and reckoned anyone taking 3 minutes was either incompetent or mendacious. We eventually had to go through the "Mandatory Reconsideration" and appeal stages, because what Maximus provided the DWP with was:
a) partially-false.
b) not inclusive of a lot of information I'd given the HCP.
c) had totally ignored my hearing impairment "because he didn't need a hearing aid in the assessment" (because it was quiet, and I could read the HCP's lips!).
The Appeals Tribunal threw out the DWP's case and gave me a four year award. You shouldn't have to work so hard to get what you're due, though.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Liked for the win, ViolentPanda not the process
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
Can anyone tell me how this is legal?
DWP has 80% targets for refusing benefit reconsiderations | Disability Rights UK
DWP has 80% targets for refusing benefit reconsiderations | Disability Rights UK
I imagine that they would say the individual cases would be seen fairly and there on an individual basis that 80% claim has no bearing and of course the government can just make whatever they like legal.
Is it fair? Like fuck
robert dennis
New Member
no dont have any idea about that
Has this PIP change been mentioned anywhere already? (Is there a separate PIP thread anywhere or is this just the general benefits & medical assessments thread now? I always get confused between the UK politics and benefit & housing forums)
People with mental health conditions can still get enhanced PIP mobility component says DWP | Disability Rights UK
I only found out about it yesterday. Just about to apply for PIP myself too
People with mental health conditions can still get enhanced PIP mobility component says DWP | Disability Rights UK
I only found out about it yesterday. Just about to apply for PIP myself too
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
It's pointless, given that if you're refused a recon, you just go to appeal. Looks like a way of scaring people off - a significant minority of people shit themselves at the idea of a tribunal, and just give up. Hey presto! Result for the DWP.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I know someone with a long term health condition. It's incurable but they are stable with medication. They are in work. They think they may be eligible for PIP. Is it worth there applying? Or would this cause them to much stress? I'm also not clear how much money they would get. Is it worth it? Reading posts here sounds like they put people through the mill.
What I'm asking is what are the pros and cons of applying.
Without knowing more I would say if you are wondering whether to apply give it a go. Health conditions can be expensive for all sorts of reasons. To get an idea I would read the desciptors the DWP live by.
Be ready to have to convince Atos et al at some point,
This thread is really for people going through benefit, including PIP and ESA, type scrutiny.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Yes, it's worth applying if they're incurring extra costs. It's a bastard to apply for, but if their condition means extra spending on transport and/or care, then they may qualify.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
I Largely expect you to have three contradictory letters that will leave you more confused.I got 3 letters from the DWP yesterday just in time for the bank holiday.
Think I will wait until after Tuesday to open them as I've got to go for a colonoscopy that day as a result of bowel problems caused by ATOS PIP assessment back in July.
So if you're leaving them for another few days it won't really matter
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