Atos Medicals - Questions, Answers and Support

[pengaleng]

Aren't claims opened by the Post Office though, so no point?

Not that I'm suggesting TP should

Not if you write 'PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL TO BE OPENED BY ATOS STAFF ONLY' on it

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Not if you write 'PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL TO BE OPENED BY ATOS STAFF ONLY' on it

I was so relived to finish form, I orgot about that bit

 

[WouldBe]

Can you use a fountain pen and fill your form in using your own blood?

 

[toggle]

i think i'd be tempted to use a dip pen to write in blood, i wouldn't want to have to try and clean coagulated blood out of the fountain pen.

mrs quoad is your expert on pens if you need to give that a try.

 

[WouldBe]

Put a p.s. at the end "can you please make a quick desicion on this as I've had to slash my wrist to get enough blood to complete this form."

 

[equationgirl]

Put a p.s. at the end "can you please make a quick desicion on this as I've had to slash my wrist to get enough blood to complete this form."

Chances are it would be weeks before someone actually read the form anyway, so I'm not sure it would work. I do like your creativity though

 

[Frances Lengel]

It's a criminal offence to send shit through the post & I reckon it'd be a similar gig with blood coz of hepititis and that. Got the results of my appeal this morning 40 or 50 A4 pages essentially saying no chance. I've still got the tribunal option (I think, I'm not looking at the letter til Monday), which I will take - Not to do so would be letting the side down & although I don't think it'll get anywhere it will generate a bit of paperwork for some trumpet to deal with.

 

[equationgirl]

It's a criminal offence to send shit through the post & I reckon it'd be a similar gig with blood coz of hepititis and that. Got the results of my appeal this morning 40 or 50 A4 pages essentially saying no chance. I've still got the tribunal option (I think, I'm not looking at the letter til Monday), which I will take - Not to do so would be letting the side down & although I don't think it'll get anywhere it will generate a bit of paperwork for some trumpet to deal with.

Sorry to hear this Frances, post on Monday if you can deal with it then and I'll do what I can to help.

 

[ViolentPanda]

It's a criminal offence to send shit through the post & I reckon it'd be a similar gig with blood coz of hepititis and that. Got the results of my appeal this morning 40 or 50 A4 pages essentially saying no chance. I've still got the tribunal option (I think, I'm not looking at the letter til Monday), which I will take - Not to do so would be letting the side down & although I don't think it'll get anywhere it will generate a bit of paperwork for some trumpet to deal with.

You can send shit through the post, it just has to be properly packaged (sealed container, then external protective packaging such as a cardboard box), and dried blood isn't a health hazard.
Sorry to hear about the appeal wankery.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

You can send shit through the post, it just has to be properly packaged (sealed container, then external protective packaging such as a cardboard box), and dried blood isn't a health hazard.
Sorry to hear about the appeal wankery.

Well it's very low risk. Hep C can apparently survive anything from minimum 16 hours to 4 days

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Shocking account of an assessment. Apologies if it's been posted before, but don't think I've seen it

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l06hje

 

[ddraig]

can i have a direct link to that please, won't open in work as is

also, i know there is lots of info on this thread and i have seen some of it as well as stuff from DPAC etc

i send links and stories to someone working in this area and preparing for the time bomb going off in April and what impacts it is having and going to have.

so if possible, could someone link to any 'studies on the impact on the health of those waiting for and going through a work capacity assessment' please?

i already have the
http://politicsuk.eu/archives/12537 Benefits Cuts, suicides and deaths. and the channel 4 link

many thanks

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

can i have a direct link to that please, won't open in work as is

also, i know there is lots of info on this thread and i have seen some of it as well as stuff from DPAC etc

i send links and stories to someone working in this area and preparing for the time bomb going off in April and what impacts it is having and going to have.

so if possible, could someone link to any 'studies on the impact on the health of those waiting for and going through a work capacity assessment' please?

i already have the
http://politicsuk.eu/archives/12537 Benefits Cuts, suicides and deaths. and the channel 4 link

many thanks

That is a direct link. It works for me

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Atos to engage with online forums

http://blog.atoshealthcare.com/2012...g-to-work-with-forums-and-online-communities/

That'll go well

 

[equationgirl]

Atos to engage with online forums

http://blog.atoshealthcare.com/2012...g-to-work-with-forums-and-online-communities/

That'll go well

I think the only direct engagement claimants want with Atos involves Molotov cocktails and the LIMA software.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

 

[Bakunin]

Atos to engage with online forums

http://blog.atoshealthcare.com/2012...g-to-work-with-forums-and-online-communities/

That'll go well

It'll make a change from threatening to sue them and approaching ISP's to get them taken down.

 

[existentialist]

It'll make a change from threatening to sue them and approaching ISP's to get them taken down.

OR maybe that's what they mean by "engaging with". ATOS do seem to have some pretty fundamental difficulties when it comes to the use of the English language...

 

[Cloo]

Shocking account of an assessment. Apologies if it's been posted before, but don't think I've seen it

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l06hje

I saw this the other day - geez, have they found some kind of 'humanity' switch that they turn off in ATOS employees?

 

[brogdale]

I saw this the other day - geez, have they found some kind of 'humanity' switch that they turn off in ATOS employees?

...and NHS employees?

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f4bd06b4-76a1-11e2-ac91-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2LCh5rmQi

Atos, the French outsourcing company hired to carry out the government’s new disability assessments, has subcontracted much of the work back to the NHS.
NHS Trusts including University College London, Kings and York will deploy thousands of health professionals to carry out the assessments, which will determine whether people are entitled to extra money to help cope with disability.

ffs

 

[Cloo]

This stuff just makes no sense - I remember when I was on a mental health trust public patient forum years back, and the gov had created a quango to manage the whole thing, who put the administrative support out to tender. So everyone ended up with totally useless, underqualified, undertrained admin assistants who literally couldn't so much as work out how to book a room for a meeting, some of whom didn't speak good English, let alone were able to write minutes of meeting with mental health jargon flying about.

Honestly, it would have been so much better for the whole thing to be run by the NHS - conflict of interest be damned, just have a good complaints system in case forum members feel they are being strongarmed or obstructed by the trust they represent. Instead, the quango was inevitably dismantled after a year or two, everyone complained about their admin support and money was spent getting new (and equally useless) organisations to take up the contracts. At least with the NHS you might have had some continuity and someone in the equation might have learned lessons. Under this 'hire and fire' (or worse still, don't fire even when totally useless) culture, no one learns anything and the government spends time and money dealing with tendering processes.

 

[_angel_]

Shocking account of an assessment. Apologies if it's been posted before, but don't think I've seen it

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l06hje

Yes unfortunately I saw this and many other things like it - what that "doctor" did technically is an assault and really people need to be ringing the police and trying to get criminal charges brought, forget making a complaint to atos.

 

[geminisnake]

Hi. Got an atos letter and esa 50 form to fill in. I don't see anyone, haven't for years so don't know who to put in for who knows my condition best. Brain injuries don't need ongoing treatment in a lot of cases.
Plus face to face assessment. I think that would be in Dundee, I don't think I would be fit to drive there so do I put I have difficulty leaving the house/using public transport?
Would I be better to see if I can get help from Welfare Rights to fill this in?

 

[Frances Lengel]

Hi. Got an atos letter and esa 50 form to fill in. I don't see anyone, haven't for years so don't know who to put in for who knows my condition best. Brain injuries don't need ongoing treatment in a lot of cases.
Plus face to face assessment. I think that would be in Dundee, I don't think I would be fit to drive there so do I put I have difficulty leaving the house/using public transport?
Would I be better to see if I can get help from Welfare Rights to fill this in?

Yes, always get help with your form if possible.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Definitely get help.

When himself got decision for support group, absolutely zilch on it about his memory problems, so I've no idea whether they were even taken into consideration

 

[kittyP]

Hi. Got an atos letter and esa 50 form to fill in. I don't see anyone, haven't for years so don't know who to put in for who knows my condition best. Brain injuries don't need ongoing treatment in a lot of cases.
Plus face to face assessment. I think that would be in Dundee, I don't think I would be fit to drive there so do I put I have difficulty leaving the house/using public transport?
Would I be better to see if I can get help from Welfare Rights to fill this in?

Get help if you can honey.

In my case (I am waiting for another form) I am going to get them to come to me A. Due to genuinley I often can't leave the house due to blind panic and B. I am afraid that if I go to them they will think that I am not as bad as I am claiming.

I do have good days and I am afraid I am going to have to act to prove what it's like on the worst days.
That makes me feel like a fraud

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Get help if you can honey.

In my case (I am waiting for another form) I am going to get them to come to me A. Due to genuinley I often can't leave the house due to blind panic and B. I am afraid that if I go to them they will think that I am not as bad as I am claiming.

I do have good days and I am afraid I am going to have to act to prove what it's like on the worst days.
That makes me feel like a fraud

It's ridiculous that more and more people are staying in because they're scared someone's going to grass them for being able to walk outside

 

[kittyP]

It's ridiculous that more and more people are staying in because they're scared someone's going to grass them for being able to walk outside

I know.
And how am I supposed to get better if I can't go out from time to time?
It's like the whole process is keeping me sick

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I know.
And how am I supposed to get better if I can't go out from time to time?
It's like the whole process is keeping me sick

You have to sneak out in the middle of the night to get some exercise

 

[yardbird]

It's ridiculous that more and more people are staying in because they're scared someone's going to grass them for being able to walk outside

I've been pretty good physically recently and loads needs doing outside, but I've rationed my "exposure" not because anyone would grass but because I don't want to piss off those who are very helpful when I'm bad.
I have been washing all the walls inside.