Aristocrat's daughter on the run with sex offender and newborn

[Magnus McGinty]

I don’t think you’re stupid, but obtuse. And you don’t like people pointing out your nonsense. This doesn’t just apply to you, but anyone who gossips and dresses it up as concern

Ah, I'm doing it because really I'm a racist. Is this what you mean but dare not say?

 

[Orang Utan]

Ah, I'm doing it because really I'm a racist. Is this what you mean but dare not say?

WTF? Okay, I’ve changed my mind now. You ARE thick

 

[Magnus McGinty]

WTF? Okay, I’ve changed my mind now. You ARE thick

Didn't take long to really get into the abuse, did it?
Scratch a liberal and you'll find a nasty fucker. Every time.

 

[Orang Utan]

Didn't take long to really get into the abuse, did it?
Scratch a liberal and you'll find a nasty fucker. Every time.

Quoted for you to apologise for in the morning.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Quoted for you to apologise for in the morning.

I've got to apologise for you being nasty?

 

[Orang Utan]

I've got to apologise for you being nasty?

I wasn’t being nasty. You jumped to a weird conclusion after constructing a series of straw men, just because I pointed out how ugly this thread was

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I wasn’t being nasty. You jumped to a weird conclusion after constructing a series of straw men, just because I pointed out how ugly this thread was

Calling me stupid isn't nasty? Ok then.

 

[Orang Utan]

Calling me stupid isn't nasty? Ok then.

Not when it’s warranted. I can be ‘nicer’ and say that perhaps you’re dishonest and obtuse instead, but you chose to poke the open wound so don’t complain when it hurts

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Not when it’s warranted. I can be ‘nicer’ and say that perhaps you’re dishonest and obtuse instead, but you chose to poke the open wound so don’t complain when it hurts

Are you pissed?

 

[Raheem]

Glad to see this thread has finally focused on what's important.

 

[not henry]

Because she gave birth to a baby alone - not illegal - and then didn't give notification of the birth, which is illegal, and also didn't make any contact with any healthcare provider, which is pretty fucking obviously not safe. There might be other stuff going on, and most likely is given the background, but the basic facts are that they've broken a law that's intended to protect babies and birthing parents.

You have 42 days in which to register a birth

 

[Orang Utan]

Are you pissed?

Cos that can be the only interpretation of why I’m sharing my opinion on Urban’s (and humanity’s) tendency to tittle-tattle as if they know everything about what’s happening.
You seem to be reacting to the person saying the thing rather than the thing itself.
Maybe I’m making an inarticulate case of it as I see others have made the same point on this thread and not been given the same treatment.
I am up too late. I have to work tomorrow.
Will read again then and either stand by what I said or apologise if I’ve got it wrong.
Will you?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Cos that can be the only interpretation of why I’m sharing my opinion on Urban’s (and humanity’s) tendency to tittle-tattle as if they know everything about what’s happening.
You seem to be reacting to the person saying the thing rather than the thing itself.
Maybe I’m making an inarticulate case of it as I see others have made the same point on this thread and not been given the same treatment.
I am up too late. I have to work tomorrow.
Will read again then and either stand by what I said or apologise if I’ve got it wrong.
Will you?

There's a woman and child out there who definitely need medical attention but aren't seeking it for whatever reason.
But I'm the guilty one for discussing it? And I need to report to you in the morning with an apology for it?
Are you pissed?

 

[xenon]

You have 42 days in which to register a birth

No. This is already covered. You have to notify of an unassisted birth within 36 hours.

Unassisted birth - Birthrights

Unassisted birth is often called ‘free birth’. It means deciding to give birth at home or somewhere else without the help of a healthcare professional such as a midwife.

www.birthrights.org.uk

 

[scifisam]

You have 42 days in which to register a birth

36 hours to notify a birth at home without any medical staff present. Not the same thing as registering a birth.

AFICT in reality it's a bit vaguer than that and depends on circumstances. Running away wouldn't be one of them.

 

[xenon]

The urban database would be a lot smaller were it not for speculating on news stories.

 

[Raheem]

You say that like it would be a bad thing.

 

[scifisam]

You haven’t even bothered to address what I’m saying and have just resorted to some bizarre personal thing.
People really don’t like it when a shameful habit of theirs is pointed out to them. We as a species/society need to do better. And for that to happen we need to stop lying to ourselves about why we gossip.

You joined in with a post that was purely photos to say anyone talking about this was curtain-twitching and it really isn't like that.

You are being a judgmental bastard, as you often are. I've changed my mind about putting you on ignore because I think I'd rather call you out when you're being like this, and support you at other times.

 

[xenon]

You say that like it would be a bad thing.

Actually purely selfishly yeah it would. I'm reading this out of nosyness. Why else. I don't know the people involved, can't pretend to really GaF beyond the obvious banaility of hoping no one is coming to harm.

 

[not henry]

Run little family run like the wind

 

[Athos]

It’s not unusual at all for people to stay with partners and risk losing their children. No blame at all and there’s complex reasons for that but it’s common.

I'd be interested to see some figures about that, because the only cases I'm aware of have involved addiction. (That's not to say you're wrong; my only experience is anecdotal, so I might be talking bollocks.)

 

[Manter]

It’s not unusual at all for people to stay with partners and risk losing their children. No blame at all and there’s complex reasons for that but it’s common.

Christ that‘s depressing.

 

[kebabking]

Run little family run like the wind

Got any views on vaccines...?

 

[Red Cat]

It’s not unusual at all for people to stay with partners and risk losing their children. No blame at all and there’s complex reasons for that but it’s common.

Yeh, I don't where the idea that they don't comes from. Always seems to be a lot of wishful thinking around safeguarding issues.

 

[Red Cat]

And the 'kid' is a new born baby. Its important to be accurate because infants are most at risk of harm and death at the hands of a parent.

 

[Red Cat]

Run little family run like the wind

You what?

 

[ElizabethofYork]

People really don’t like it when a shameful habit of theirs is pointed out to them. We as a species/society need to do better. And for that to happen we need to stop lying to ourselves about why we gossip.

Gossip, or discussing current affairs?

Why are you even on the Current Affairs forum if you consider it all to be shameful gossip? Just to snipe and sneer and tell everyone that you're so much loftier than them?

 

[Red Cat]

You haven’t even bothered to address what I’m saying and have just resorted to some bizarre personal thing.
People really don’t like it when a shameful habit of theirs is pointed out to them. We as a species/society need to do better. And for that to happen we need to stop lying to ourselves about why we gossip.

People gossip because they enjoy it, and it serves social functions. You can't just get rid of powerful aspects of human culture because you don't like it.

 

[Looby]

I'd be interested to see some figures about that, because the only cases I'm aware of have involved addiction. (That's not to say you're wrong; my only experience is anecdotal, so I might be talking bollocks.)

I haven’t got time to look for data, I’m just giving my own professional experience working with families in various roles.

There often are other factors but sometimes it does come down to the child and possibly their parent not being safe and there’s not much you can do with that because the needs of the child have to be paramount.

Unsurprisingly, they generally don’t have the money and time to do the intense work needed to help women leave and stay away and I’m not defending that at all. They need to do more but this work is so difficult and complex that even if every thing was done and offered, it often wouldn’t happen in the timescales the child needs to be healthy, happy and safe.
M

It definitely doesn’t always come down to drugs. Mental health, domestic abuse, impact of generations of neglect, abuse and trauma, undiagnosed and unsupported learning disabilities etc Sometimes, all of the above.

 

[Athos]

I haven’t got time to look for data, I’m just giving my own professional experience working with families in various roles.

There often are other factors but sometimes it does come down to the child and possibly their parent not being safe and there’s not much you can do with that because the needs of the child have to be paramount.

Unsurprisingly, they generally don’t have the money and time to do the intense work needed to help women leave and stay away and I’m not defending that at all. They need to do more but this work is so difficult and complex that even if every thing was done and offered, it often wouldn’t happen in the timescales the child needs to be healthy, happy and safe.
M

It definitely doesn’t always come down to drugs. Mental health, domestic abuse, impact of generations of neglect, abuse and trauma, undiagnosed and unsupported learning disabilities etc Sometimes, all of the above.

I'm sure you're right; no doubt I oversimplified in my speculation - could be any of the reasons you mention. Maybe we'll find out one day.