Amanda Knox Is Innocent

[Johnny Canuck3]

Yes, they let us ride in steerage if we swab the decks.

I can now identify a Welsh accent after watching that show about a ghost, werewolf and vampire who share a flat in Bristol.

 

[phildwyer]

I can now identify a Welsh accent after watching that show about a ghost, werewolf and vampire who share a flat in Bristol.

There isn't a single "Welsh accent," there are many. I don't know if you think I have a Welsh accent, but most people in Wales would call it "Keyardiff."

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

There isn't a single "Welsh accent," there are many. I don't know if you think I have a Welsh accent, but most people in Wales would call it "Keyardiff."

You sounded pretty neutral to me. I'm thinking of that kid, he's a young werewolf. Also the girl in Misfits. It's all big round 'oohs'.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

There isn't a single "Welsh accent," there are many. I don't know if you think I have a Welsh accent, but most people in Wales would call it "Keyardiff."

To me, this is Welsh. Tom McNair. Lives just outside Barry.

 

[phildwyer]

You sounded pretty neutral to me. I'm thinking of that kid, he's a young werewolf. Also the girl in Misfits. It's all big round 'oohs'.

That's a bumpkin Camarthenshire accent, which is how most foriegners think all Welsh people talk. But in fact there are massive differences between Jacks, Gogs, Valleys--even between different valleys--and that's even before we get to the language issue.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

That's a bumpkin Camarthenshire accent, which is how most foriegners think all Welsh people talk. But in fact there are massive differences between Jacks, Gogs, Valleys--even between different valleys--and that's even before we get to the language issue.

This is all very informative.

 

[phildwyer]

To me, this is Welsh. Tom McNair. Lives just outside Barry.

That's a Cardiff accent. Very different from other Welsh regional accents.

However the most important determinant of accent in Wales, as throughout the UK, is not geography but class. I believe that makes Britain unique. It certainly tells you a lot about British society.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I thought of this as being welsh, too. Turns out her name is Socha too. Small world, eh?

 

[butchersapron]

To me, this is Welsh. Tom McNair. Lives just outside Barry.

That's an east midlands - england accent.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

That's a Cardiff accent. Very different from other Welsh regional accents.

However the most important determinant of accent in Wales, as throughout the UK, is not geography but class. I believe that makes Britain unique. It certainly tells you a lot about British society.

Personally, I felt that I'd accomplished something just being able to pick out one Welsh accent. Before, I'd have thought that these people were Irish or something. Or maybe from Yorkshire or who the fuck knows where in England?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

That's an east midlands - england accent.

I didn't realize that Cardiff was in the east midlands.

 

[butchersapron]

I thought of this as being welsh, too. Turns out her name is Socha too. Small world, eh?

That is also east mids. Unsuprsinglly as she's the sister of the other one with a non-welsh accent you mentioned above.

 

[phildwyer]

That's an east midlands - england accent.

The kid's English, the older bloke's from Cardiff.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

That is also east mids.

Phil says Cardiff.

And he's welsh.

 

[butchersapron]

The kid's English, the older bloke's from Cardiff.

He's on about the kid.

 

[butchersapron]

Phil says Cardiff.

And he's welsh.

Phil is looking at the wrong person. Pretty sure i know a welsh accent given i can see the bloody place out side my front door.

 

[phildwyer]

I thought of this as being welsh, too. Turns out her name is Socha too. Small world, eh?

That's Irish. Not sure what part.

 

[phildwyer]

Phil is looking at the wrong person. Pretty sure i know a welsh accent given i can see the bloody place out side my front door.

On a fine day, I can see your front door from my front door.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

The kid's English, the older bloke's from Cardiff.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

That's Irish. Not sure what part.

But... Michael Socha [the kid] and Lauren Socha, are brother and sister.

 

[phildwyer]

But... Michael Socha [the kid] and Lauren Socha, are brother and sister.

They're also actors.

Listening to it again, he only goes into Irish at the end, when he says "are we supposed to be able to understand her."

The woman's a Brummie.

This clip also provides a good example of a Black British accent.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

They're also actors.

Listening to it again, he only goes into Irish at the end, when he says "are we supposed to be able to understand her."

The accent you should be concentrating on is the female. Lauren Socha.

Are you in the US, or Europe right now?

 

[phildwyer]

The accent you should be concentrating on is the female. Lauren Socha.

Brummie.

Are you in the US, or Europe right now?

Cardiff today, London tomorrow, Philly Wednesday.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Brummie.



Cardiff today, London tomorrow, Philly Wednesday.

You're somewhere where it's daylight? Then unlike myself, you have no excuse for being involved in this asinine conversation.

 

[Greebo]

I thought of this as being welsh, too. Turns out her name is Socha too. Small world, eh? <snip>

No way - that's yer common or garden chav accent as heard and spoken about 5 years ago. One of my neighbours has the same accent and he sounds ridiculous - halfway between yokel and mockney.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

No way -.

No way what: it's not a small world?

I still think it is.

 

[phildwyer]

Back on topic for a moment, this letter from Knox sounds convincing to me:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...urder-It-didnt-change-minds-change-yours.html

 

[Greebo]

No way what: it's not a small world?<snip>

No way is Socha's accent when she's playing her character in "Misfits" Brummie, Irish, or Welsh. It's chav, and Southern English chav at that.

 

[Mungy]

On a fine day, I can see your front door from my front door.

on a fine day.... wait i'm in north wales .... looks out of window, the one day i can make a joke about north walian weather and mae 'n braf heddiw, tydy?*


*covered weather in learning welsh last week, so i know what i'm talking about

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

No way is Socha's accent when she's playing her character in "Misfits" Brummie, Irish, or Welsh. It's chav, and Southern English chav at that.

What's she doing here?