Gromit
International Man of Misery
Sounds familiar. You aren't the first person he's used that modus operandi on. It as if a campaign of harnessing someone for a bit is his way of winning his lost pride back.
Amanda Knox Is Innocent
- Thread starter phildwyer
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Sounds familiar. You aren't the first person he's used that modus operandi on. It as if a campaign of harnessing someone for a bit is his way of winning his lost pride back.
Atomic. For the last time. You are not wanted here. You have made it perfectly clear that your only purpose is to disrupt our discussion. Your stalking behavior and general obsession is becoming seriously weird.
Now go away.
Yep. Thank you. Atomic has been following me around the boards for several weeks now, and I'm not the first to be subjected to his bizarre campaign of disruption.
Pretty soon he'll start banging on about the Goodies again.
Riklet
procrastinación
ooo ouch. the IQ guns are out.
keep telling yourself that phil. i'm more interested in whether you have any decent response to y'know... the evidence laid out against Knox in the past page or two of this thread. nice you have something to believe in though.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
I like the way he is turning it around by trying to make out an 'on topic' reply to his thread is somehow 'stalking'.
Hey Dwyer, why don't you post up all of my comments where I have been 'stalking you for weeks', turn me in to the mods if you must. I don't think replying on topic to one of your other threads and one comment about something you said on a separate thread is stalking now is it Phil?
I'm just looking at the search of our interaction now (that anyone can do) and it doesn't really look in your favor. You are a strange man, that is for sure.
Back on topic. Dwyer, looking at the evidence, do you really really believe there is no way at all that Amanda Knox could have committed the murder or been a part in it?
Despite all the frothing, Mr.Dwyer, you really haven't come up with any definitive anything apart from reinstating this woman's 'obvious' innocence. Unless you have access to evidence we are all unaware of, your statement is based on your own none too cunningly concealed predjudices. It appears to me that they are all lying fuckwits (Knox, Guede and Solecito). I recall seeing the reportage at the time and being frankly sickened by the smooching and touching, the coy simpers and totally bizarre behaviour of Knox and Solecito. I would expect to never know the facts of the case (apart from the fact of Meredith Kercher's death) since the usual legal finagling and media circus is likely to distort all events through a glass, darkly.
Treacle Toes
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You are right, this has never happened to me so I don't know....I do though believe, cleaning the flat with bleach would be the last thing on my mind whilst my flatmate lay dead in her bedroom.
Treacle Toes
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No, obviously. You would know I don't think this had you finished reading the thread.
Basically it comes down to a reading of character.
There´s no motive for Knox to have committed this murder. The prosecution´s attempt to construct one relies on the most transparent kind of misogyny. We are being asked to believe that a woman of previously immaculate character quite suddenly turned into a murderous, sex crazed monster for no reason whatsoever. I don´t believe it.
Furthermore, the prosecutor strikes me as a ruthless loony of the first water.
And that is apart from the almost complete lack of evidence.
She´s innocent, of that I have no doubt. And I´m willing to bet that she will be acquitted. Any takers..
Atomic, your plea of innocence is difficult to take seriously for this reason. You are presently engaged, publically, in the action which you are denying.
You are here, now, stalking me. You have been asked to stop. But you don´t stop, you continue. If you want people to believe that you are not stalking me, then STOP STALKING ME. No one will believe your denial of stalking behavior while you are presently, visibly engaged in such behavior.
Surely even you can see that.
Not only do I believe it, I am willing to bet on it. Two of your Goodies albums against ten quid. Because I have no wish to deprive you of what seems to be your only pleasure in life, I´ll accept reissues and bootlegs too.
Time to put your Goodies obsession where your mouth is.
Apparently she didn´t clean the flat anyway.
Do you believe she´s guilty... sorry I´m in Mexico and can´t find the question mark on this keyboard estupido... but that is a question.
Treacle Toes
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In all honesty Phil, I don't know if she is, there is no way of me knowing that for sure, just as I don't think you can know for sure either.
One of the things that stands out for me is that it has been said that Miss Kercher appeared to have been held down etc suggesting that more than one person was involved.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Phil, replying to to a thread started by you is not stalking. You jolly well know what stalking is as you have done it with me an several others. If you genuinely think have a problem take it up with the mods. You must surely know the parameters as you have been banned for it enough.
Please stick to the topic.
So are you going to answer my question. . ?
Do you seriously believe that there is not even the slightest, tiniest, miniscule possibility that Amanda Knox is guilty?
I mean if that was the case, why would they have a trial at all?
I think you know the answer already, hence you have commenced with your 'comedy' Dwyer meltdown already.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
i'm afraid i lost the will to live first....
It is when you have been asked, repeatedly and politely, to go away. It is when you refuse to engage with the topic but instead exploit this tragedy as an excuse to vent your pique against me. It is when this is merely the latest of many, many stalking incidents when you have followed me all over the boards spilling your vile bile all over the screen.
Look, if you claim not to be stalking me, it is very easy to prove. Just STOP DOING IT. Just leave this thread, as you have been told to do. For you are now in the absurd position of stalking me in order to deny that you are stalking me.
And thus your denials of stalking are logically self refuting. I wonder if you can understand that now.
I am certain of it. That is why I offered you a bet last night. Since you are evidently not brave enough to risk two of your treasured Goodies albums, I will now make an even more generous offer. Ten pounds against your ´Funky Gibbon´ single. Yes I know you said it was your favorite, but if you are so sure of your case that shouldnt be a problem should it...
I know. Atomic´s behavior on this thread is a new low even for him. At least in the past he confined his stalking to the Music or General fori.
But now it appears that no tragedy is too grave for Atomic to exploit. I fear it is only a matter of time before he branches out to Community Chat.
Or one person much stronger than her.
I won´t claim to be able to prove her innocence. But the complete lack of motive, the absence of any previous indications of a violent disposition, and most of all the disgracefully misogynist media campaign, to which judges and jury members were fully exposed during the trial, all combine to make me certain of her innocence.
And I´m pretty sure that, this time, the court´s decision will prove me right.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
is she your girlfriend phil?
irl or make believe?
choice is yours like
irl or make believe?
choice is yours like
is she your girlfriend phil?
Dios mio, claro que no. Es una chica loca, sin duda. Pero no es asesina.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Then you are indeed a top class fool. There might of course be 'reasonable doubt' but to bankerly say that her case is iron clad and irrefutable is just moronic, to say that of any case that has is even made it court takes less brains than brick.
Sorry to have to spell this out again but it's not about the outcome of a court case, it's about the fact that there is evidence to debate in a court case. The fact that the case has gone to court means that there is evidence at least one way if not the other, there is no point in painfully immature internet bets as the outcome of my side of the argument has already played out. Don't blame me if you are to much of a numbskull to see it.
Treacle Toes
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based on what? her dress? her hairstyle. Don't be such a simpleton, you are merely restating some nasty predjudice because she looks like a pretty young woman. This eagerness to leap to her defence may seem gallant and chivalrous (to you) but really, you just sound like a bit of a dimwit.
I´m sorry Atomic, but as you become more and more enraged, your private language grows impossible for normal people to understand. What do you mean by ´bankerly´ for example?
In English it means ´after the fashion of a banker.´ But that can´t be what it means in Atomicspeak. Or can it? And if so, why would a banker be particularly convinced of Amanda Knox´s innocence?
But Atomic, all court cases have evidence. That´s what they do in court cases, debate the evidence. What did you think they do, the Funky Gibbon?
I suspect that you composed your post when you were in a rather bankerly frme of mind. You´d probably been listening to ´The Inbetweenies,´ I know that song usually gets you in a bankerly mood.
Perhaps you´d like to try again when you´re feeling a bit less bankerly.
On the contrary, it is the fact that she is a pretty young woman that led directly to her conviction. The prosectuion played on the envy, aggression and misogyny that unabashedly hedonistic pretty young women attract from certain quarters.
Not to put too fine a point upon it, the prosecutor presented her as a slut. It is a strategy that is unlikely to have prevailed in the UK (and it would certainly have backfired badly in the USA), but unfortunately it paid off in Italy.
It won´t work a second time though, and I have ten quid that says so.
When you say she's a crazy girl, what do you mean exactly?
In Mexico, where I currently reside, the phrase ´chica loca´ certainly does not mean that she is clinically insane.
It has a more colloquial connontation, meaning something like ´a bit of a handful,´ or ´´high maintenance,´ or ´prone to emotional scenes in public.´
It is by no means unaffectionate, but it designates someone you´d feel happier introducing to los cholos rather than la madre, if you catch my drift.
Actually, if you read back through the thread carefully, you´ll see that it was I who proposed that bet, not Atomic.
And while I´m by no means Atomic´s greatest fan, I´m afraid I cant´t agree that he is ´sick.´ Confused perhaps, with a strange taste in music certainly, and perhaps not exactly the brain of Britain. But I´ve seen nothing in his posts to suggest that he is in need of psychiatric treatment. Have you?
Treacle Toes
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Interesting. Do you know AN then Phil? If not, don't you think this is a bit of a strange description of her, especially in a thread where you are arguing her innocence?
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