Treacle Toes
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Yes you have!
Let's review:
I said:
You said:
I said:
another part of you said:
Ah so not even the end of page one and you have changed your mind already then?
Is that evidence alone enough for me to call you schizophrenic?
Amanda Knox Is Innocent
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Yes you have!
Let's review:
Ah so not even the end of page one and you have changed your mind already then?
Is that evidence alone enough for me to call you schizophrenic?
No I said that he had "sort of" displayed the tendencies of a psychopath.
No, obviously I have not.
I said that he "sort of" had a history that suggested he might be a psychopath.
And that is still what I say.
Treacle Toes
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Yes you did say that...and later said this:
So, by your superior logic you said that, then this...
.....because you are schizophrenic?
But you have no logic at all!
Being locally notorious as a petty criminal and basically a local degenerate and all-round bad egg is a history consistent with psychological disturbance. Obviously.
Anyway, he's admitted it.
Aye... some do. But for every one who hated her for her looks and easy sexuality there's one who won't believe that pretty girls do such things. That's what I meant by balance.
How do you think the media's portrayal influenced her trial?
I believe the jury was not sequestrated.
Did you just make that word up? Isn't it sequestered?
Still... that doesn't mean they were as a jury unduly influenced.
Treacle Toes
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I have used the same logic you youself have employed on this thread pathologising on those who you deem to have and have not shown psychopathic tendencys, to show that you could be called scizophrenic because you have changed your mind so quickly.
Of course I don't think you are, but that's because I don't share the same logic as you.
elbows
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I've no way to know whether she was innocent or guilty.
If she was innocent, then what scuppered her was her behaviour after the killings, she didn't react in a way people would deem normal. And Im sure lots of innocent people suffer a lot of shit from organs of society such as the media and the law, if they happen to have personality traits or disorders that make them seem aloof, disconnected, unemotional, or guilty of behaviour that runs contrary to cultural norms. The small percentage of weirdos who actually commit violent crimes does not help.
If she was innocent, then what scuppered her was her behaviour after the killings, she didn't react in a way people would deem normal. And Im sure lots of innocent people suffer a lot of shit from organs of society such as the media and the law, if they happen to have personality traits or disorders that make them seem aloof, disconnected, unemotional, or guilty of behaviour that runs contrary to cultural norms. The small percentage of weirdos who actually commit violent crimes does not help.
That isn't a symptom exclusive to schizophrenia.
Treacle Toes
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Quite, which is why I used it as an example, or non-example, whichever way you wanna see it.
Quite, which is why I used it as an example.
You think it's offensive to call someone who raped and murdered someone a psychopath because they may not actually be one?
Seems an odd crusade you've embarked on there tbh.
Treacle Toes
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No crusade actually C66, thank you all the same for that over dramatic dig and misunderstanding of the point I was making to Phil.
I just thought it odd that Phil was so sure that AK hasn't shown any psychopathic tendencies, then claimed RG had, then he said sort of...and now says he definately has because he has a history of theft.
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She was doing cartwheels in the police station. She's clearly a wrongun.
Hang on, he's admitted to murder. Surely that is pretty good evidence for his being a psychopath.
Not in America.
How so? Did she delay calling the cops or something?
This is indeed the 64 million dollar question.
I think it was because she was scared witless.
Treacle Toes
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Oh come on Phil. He has admitted it, so now you can think him a psychopath.
However you began by suggesting that AK doesn't have anything in her background to suggest she is a 'murderer/psychopath', then suggested RG does have, but then when we broke it down we realise that you think that because he has a history of theft. For me, someone having a history of petty crime/theft does not suggest they have psychopathic/murderous tendencies.
Fedayn
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No it's nothing of the sort phillip as well you know.
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What are the Kerchers saying?
The American media have been highlighting Knox's 'innocence' for sometime now, the Oprah show, Fox News etc...
The American media have been highlighting Knox's 'innocence' for sometime now, the Oprah show, Fox News etc...
For me, it makes them far more likely to have such tendencies than somebody with no such history, such as Amanda Knox.
What circumstances are those?
elbows
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The terms psychopath and schizophrenic seem to be used in this thread with no regard for what they actually mean. Changing your mind or contradicting yourself is no guide to schizophrenia, and although this condition was only mentioned in a jestful attempt to make a point, the point seems to rely on the hopelessly inaccurate misconception that schizophrenia is a split personality disorder (as in the equally wrong joke 'Im schizophrenic and so am I').
Admitting to murder is also not good evidence for being a psychopath. Psychopaths are considered to be disproportionately responsible for violent acts, so its something you'd want to look into further, but people do violence for all sorts of other reasons too. Looking at definitions for psychopath, or more modern terms such as antisocial personality disorder, and what we actually see are a few of the symptoms that some people thought they were seeing from Amanda Knox, i.e. reports indicate that her emotional response to the killings was not what people would expect, raising suspicions.
Admitting to murder is also not good evidence for being a psychopath. Psychopaths are considered to be disproportionately responsible for violent acts, so its something you'd want to look into further, but people do violence for all sorts of other reasons too. Looking at definitions for psychopath, or more modern terms such as antisocial personality disorder, and what we actually see are a few of the symptoms that some people thought they were seeing from Amanda Knox, i.e. reports indicate that her emotional response to the killings was not what people would expect, raising suspicions.
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