Amanda Knox Is Innocent

[Treacle Toes]

For me, it makes them far more likely to have such tendencies than somebody with no such history, such as Amanda Knox.

So you know for sure that AK has never ever stolen anything?

Anyone having stolen anything in the past is more likely to have psychopathic or murderous tendencies?

Jeez Phil, you surprise me sometimes.

 

[phildwyer]

The terms psychopath and schizophrenic seem to be used in this thread with no regard for what they actually mean.

Fair enough. Hyperbole innit.

reports indicate that her emotional response to the killings was not what people would expect, raising suspicions.

Which reports?

 

[100% masahiko]

They are in Italy....

Seriously... I'm genuinely interested in why Knox may not be guilty. I think the circumstances suggest that she was at least involved. How much is the only debate, I think.

We will never know.
Power of media. Celebrities mixed with a piss poor and often corrupt police force.
And I heard the Italian justice system is one of the shittest, dunno why exactly.

 

[Kizmet]

What circumstances are those?

Her involvement with the victim, the other defendants and the nature of that involvement.

You're the one who seems sure of something, though... so perhaps you should tell me?

 

[phildwyer]

Anyone having stolen anything in the past is more likely to have psychopathic or murderous tendencies?

He was known to all as a neighborhood druggie, brawler and criminal. Exactly the sort of person you might suspect of being a bit unstable.

 

[Treacle Toes]

The terms psychopath and schizophrenic seem to be used in this thread with no regard for what they actually mean.

I know elbows. I apologise for not being clearer but I was willfully misusing the term 'schizophrenic' to demonstrate why I though Phil was misusing the term psychopathic

 

[phildwyer]

You're the one who seems sure of something, though... so perhaps you should tell me?

I'm sure that I've never seen or heard anything that credibly suggests her guilt. Have you?

 

[Kizmet]

We will never know.
Power of media. Celebrities mixed with a piss poor and often corrupt police force.
And I heard the Italian justice system is one of the shittest, dunno why exactly.

Never know exactly. But 25 years is a lot based on such dubious evidence.

 

[Kizmet]

I'm sure that I've never seen or heard anything that credibly suggests her guilt. Have you?

Except for the testimony of the other defendants that implicated her...

 

[Treacle Toes]

He was known to all as a neighborhood druggie, brawler and criminal. Exactly the sort of person you might suspect of being a bit unstable.

Taking drugs, having had a fight at some point, having commited theft at some point. Can I just say that under those indicators I must know lots of psychopaths

Have you ever taken drugs, nicked anything or had a fight?

 

[Fedayn]

Fair enough. Hyperbole innit

Is that hyperbole as in factually incorrect pish perchance?!

 

[elbows]

I know elbows. I apologise for not being clearer but I was willfully misusing the term 'schizophrenic' to demonstrate why I though Phil was misusing the term psychopathic

I thought that might be the case but when embarking on my rant about psychopathy I couldn't really leave out the Schizophrenic stuff either.

In any case I would like to state that I am as guilty as anyone for rushing to judgement when I see accused people behaving in certain cold ways, with Knox her eyes alone are enough to cause a rush to judgement.

 

[phildwyer]

Except for the testimony of the other defendants that implicated her...

Oh, you mean this guy:

"Guede said he doesn't even know how he ended up in Germany...."

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/rudy-guede-amanda-knox-leave-murder-scene/story?id=9117060&page=2

 

[Treacle Toes]

I thought that might be the case but when embarking on my rant about psychopathy I couldn't really leave out the Schizophrenic stuff either.

I know, it's cool!

 

[Kizmet]

Yeah. That guy.

Not the most reliable of witnesses. But pretty much the only one.

 

[phildwyer]

Not the most reliable of witnesses. But pretty much the only one.

Definitely the only one.

 

[100% masahiko]

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september052011/amanda-knox.php

Unsure what to think of this...

 

[phildwyer]

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september052011/amanda-knox.php

Unsure what to think of this...

I'd say that was pretty accurate.

I really think that anyone who looks into this case in any detail must conclude that she is innocent. Perfect example of a media stitch-up.

 

[elbows]

Well given how often you seem to end up as lord of all that is wrong, that means she is probably guilty of hell.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Oh, you mean this guy:

"Guede said he doesn't even know how he ended up in Germany...."

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/rudy-guede-amanda-knox-leave-murder-scene/story?id=9117060&page=2

There appear to be many inconsistancies in this case, including the one you post above;

The prosecutors also said Knox had confessed during police questioning - but she later said she had been struck by officers during her interrogation.

They said she had falsely accused Mr Lumumba to hide her guilt.

Knox's alibi was also challenged. She said she had been at Sollecito's house on the night of the murder, they had smoked cannabis, had sex and fallen asleep.

Prosecutors said none of it could be proved.

And then there was Knox's behaviour at the police station while waiting to talk to investigators.

Police and friends testified that Knox had performed cartwheels, done the splits and giggled with Sollecito.

Knox would later say it was her way of dealing with the stress and grief of the situation.

The prosecution also said Sollecito's DNA had been found at the murder scene, on the clasp of the bra worn by Miss Kercher.

Sollecito's defence team said the evidence was contaminated and did not stand up.
Prosecutors also questioned Sollecito's claims he had been at home downloading Japanese cartoons on the internet at the time of the killing. They said records from his internet service provider did not support that.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8390909.stm

I think there's a long thread somewhere isn't there?

 

[phildwyer]

Mr Lumumba

He is Patrice Lumumba's grandson: FACT.

 

[Treacle Toes]

He is Patrice Lumumba's grandson: FACT.

....and? That made Patrice guilty, as Knox claimed?

Seriously, I hope she is innocent like you claim, otherwise this thread is really weird because of the strange logic you are using to show how everyone else is somehow OBVIOUSLY guilty.

 

[phildwyer]

....and? That made Patrice guilty, as Knox claimed?

I'm sure it's just a strange co-incidence.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Fool, you are not welcome on this thread. Nothing good ever comes of your presence.

Not for you at least.
You'll just have to toll harder or become less of a imbecile I guess.

 

[8115]

I've always felt, I wouldn't like to speculate one way or another whether she did it, but from what I have seen the case against her didn't seem strong enough to convict. I wouldn't use the phrase definitely innocent.

 

[phildwyer]

Not for you at least.
You'll just have to toll harder or become less of a imbecile I guess.

 

[camouflage]

Fool, you are not welcome on this thread. Nothing good ever comes of your presence.

lol

 

[camouflage]

People hate hot girls?

I don't, I think they're great!

 

[Treacle Toes]

I'm sure it's just a strange co-incidence.

Yeah, like Knox saying she was at her boyfriend's house, and her boyfriend saying he was alone, online etc...only he wasn't. Strange, yes.

 

[Riklet]

She seems guilty as sin, but then this is just based upon the media's manipulation of me, and my hatred of hot girls. Apparently. Oh, and her suspect behaviour, presence at the murder scene, lies, general dodginess yada yada. Convicted based on inklings and feelings eh, same as why you think she's innocent.

Her parents are clearly minted and can keep coming up with appeals and the sort. Would problems with the latest DNA results actually mean she was no longer implicated and involved in the murder, or as an accessory to murder? I think not personally, but we'll see.