Amanda Knox Is Innocent

[belboid]

It was Dwyer who started the 'hot chick' shit, no one else. And it was certainly garf who started chucking around far and away the worst of the abuse. He most likely only escaped the complaints and ban because everyone ignores the moron.

If you dont see dwyer deliberately moves in to wind people up, well.....maybe they shouldnt let him, but its his gameplan all the way. And its all these discussions ever are for him, a game to show off his intellect.

 

[LiamO]

Celebratory release pool party at Barrymores house

I vote jerbaby goes and does a bit of role-playing

 

[Treacle Toes]

you mean where Rutita used the word psychopath and he replied 'sort of. yes.' ?

LiamO, if you are gonna bring my name into your convesation please don't misquote/misrepresent what was posted and by whom. I didn't use the word first at all.

The only evidence was the DNA, which has now been shown to be misleading. There's no motive, nothing in her previous conduct to suggest a psychopath, and most of all, they've already convicted the guy who did it.

...and the guy they have already convicted, has a history that suggests he is a psychopath?

Sort of, yes. Hasn't he admitted it?

Phil then name's Guede and responds to Kizmet's post about Guede acting alone or not.

I then post:

Ah so not sure of the facts at all then?

Are you sure that Guede previously showed signs of being a psychopath either or did you just make that up too?

Eh? What? Do go on Phil.

Petty criminal rather than psychopath.

Please note that Fed and I have quoted the same exchange on page one. I though have added the last post by Phil which illustrates him backing down from his claim that Guede is a 'sort of' psychopath to a 'petty criminal'.

 

[Fedayn]

Well exactly.

The evidence is clear for all to see, just by reading back through the thread.

It's also worth pointing out that I never, ever begin fights on here. What happens is that "some cowardly little tosser" such as you mention above decides that he has enough saftey in numbers to stick the boot in, and then goes weeping to the Mods when faced with retaliation.

Yes, the evidence is clear, on the first page it is you who is the first to resort to attacks and abuse, read it back and it might ring a few bells.... That said I doubt it......

 

[phildwyer]

Has the judge come out and said it was all down to discrimination against hot chicks then? Cos that was Dwyers argument.

Yes it was.

And nowhere was this hostility towards young women more clearly displayed than on this thread.

 

[phildwyer]

Yes, the evidence is clear, on the first page it is you who is the first to resort to attacks and abuse

The evidence shows the precise opposite.

 

[krtek a houby]

I vote jerbaby goes and does a bit of role-playing

Awesome. You're back, what, 5 mins & you're into me (with no provocation, whatsoever) on 2 separate thread topics... as I said on the Jedward thread, take your issues with me elsewhere. Or at least, go back to derailing your own thread.

 

[danny la rouge]

The Fail published the wrong verdict before recanting, but here's the original in all it's hideous lying glory:
(better to click on the link - it's long)
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8510/falseknoxstory02.jpg

Much as I'd love to trash the Mail, I think every paper will have had two versions of the story ready to roll, especially given the expected time of the verdict. The BBC even had pieces to camera that were filmed in daylight (nightfall in Italy is early and quick), that were aired that evening after the verdict, but which seemed to be in possession of the verdict despite having been clearly shot long before it was delivered. If they didn't have corresponding pieces ready for the other outcome, then I'd be very surprised.

What the Mail did was jump the gun, briefly issue the wrong story, and swiftly rectify their mistake.

 

[LiamO]

LiamO, if you are gonna bring my name into your convesation please don't misquote/represent what was posted and by whom. I didn't use the word first at all.

You WERE the person to first use the word psychopath in relation to Mr Guede - as your quotes above show.

This is all getting a little too circular - even for me - so I'll probably bow out now... (makes note to self that adding a smiley to the 'orderly queue' post might have saved all this bollocks. Glad I only come on a day a month.

 

[krtek a houby]

Glad I only come on a day a month.

Seconded

 

[Fedayn]

The evidence shows the precise opposite.

No it doesn't, but you know that and continually act the cunt... It's pretty clear on the first page. The only thing you've got to be sad about is now you won't be writing letters to Amanda In prison for you to salivate over her replies....

 

[LiamO]

Awesome. You're back, what, 5 mins & you're into me (with no provocation, whatsoever) on 2 separate thread topics... as I said on the Jedward thread, take your issues with me elsewhere. Or at least, go back to derailing your own thread.

squirm off, you invertebrate wretched tout and (almost unbelievably) wannabe bully.

But thanks for the laugh when you assumed your 'mate' Garf was gonna back you up and you assumed your usual arse-licking stance - only for him to fart in your face. Classic.

 

[Fedayn]

You WERE the person to first use the word psychopath in relation to Mr Guede - as your quotes above show.

Yes, as a question after phil had already used the word to allude anyone who killed Meredith Kercher must have been a psychopath as his remark about Amanda Knox not being a psychopath means he believed her innocent. Really rather simple when you look at it.

 

[Treacle Toes]

You WERE the person to first use the word psychopath in relation to Mr Guede - as your quotes above show.

No, I wasn't, not in the way you are insisting anyway

Phil posted Knox hadn't showed signs of being one which implies whoever killed her is one. That was the question I asked, I didn't even used his name. You only had to say 'oh okay sorry!, but no, you wanna argue the toss with me too. Don't misrepresent my posts please.

 

[phildwyer]

No it doesn't

Yes it does: Atomic Suplex is the first to become hostile, at post 17.

Since this is clear to anyone who looks at the first page, you are now revealed as a liar.

 

[belboid]

Yes it was.

And nowhere was this hostility towards young women more clearly displayed than on this thread.

still wanking phil?

 

[phildwyer]

No, I wasn't. Phil posted Knox hadn't showed signs of being one which implies whoever killed her is one. That was the question I asked, I didn't even used his name. You only had to say 'oh okay sorry!, but no, you wanna argue the toss with me too. Don't misrepresent my posts please.

Well obviously whoever killed her is a psychopath. No? That is what I said, and in response you clearly did use his name. Liam was perfectly correct in his representation of your posts.

 

[Fedayn]

Yes it does: Atomic Suplex is the first to become hostile, at post 17.

Since this is clear to anyone who looks at the first page, you are now revealed as a liar.

If a sarcastic piss-taking post is hostile then you clearly are a sensitive soul. That's as hostile as you are witty, ie not very.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Well obviously whoever killed her is a psychopath. No? That is what I said, and in response you clearly did use his name. Liam was perfectly correct in his representation of your posts.

My first response was:

...and the guy they have already convicted, has a history that suggests he is a psychopath?

So no Phil, LiamO wasn't correct, nor are you now.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Well obviously whoever killed her is a psychopath. No?

No.

 

[phildwyer]

Yes, as a question after phil had already used the word to allude anyone who killed Meredith Kercher must have been a psychopath as his remark about Amanda Knox not being a psychopath means he believed her innocent. Really rather simple when you look at it.

So simple it's a wonder that even you cannot grasp it.

In fact, if you'll read this again you'll see that you are agreeing with me. Do you disagree that Meredith's killer was a psychopath? And do you agree that if Knox is not a psychopath it follows that she is innocent?

You seem pretty confused here tbh.

 

[phildwyer]

If a sarcastic piss-taking post is hostile then you clearly are a sensitive soul.

What would you call it, "friendly?"

 

[dylans]

Of course I agree.

But I think there were other factors determining the response of the "guilters." Although they had no facts to support their opinion, certain kinds of people nonetheless very much wanted her to be guilty. The instinctively authoritarian reaction of Belboid and his ilk has much to teach us about human nature and its relation to authority.

Absolutely right. There was something really nasty about the salivating for blood by some on here. The casual acceptance of the "reasonableness" of the prosecution claim that smoking pot can lead to sexual depravity and murder. Even a single day of retrospection shows how utterly absurd that ugly little claim was.

When I posted earlier citing occams razor and asking what seemed more likely, that a burglar broke into the house, found a girl there and attacked and killed her or the whole house conspired with a complete stranger to engage in a drug fuelled orgy and to murder a housemate with no motive whatsoever? I was attacked and my line of reasoning dismissed with contempt by the closet authoritarians who showed their true colours on here. I for one will not forget who they were.

 

[phildwyer]

Anyway, we shouldn't let this petty bickering get in the way of the main point, which is that I was proved entirely correct in everything I said.

That is the lesson we need to learn from this.

 

[dylans]

Anyway, we shouldn't let this petty bickering get in the way of the main point, which is that I was proved entirely correct in everything I said.

That is the lesson we need to learn from this.

As was I.

 

[phildwyer]

Absolutely right. There was something really nasty about the salivating for blood by some on here. The casual acceptance of the "reasonableness" of the prosecution claim that smoking pot can lead to sexual depravity and murder. Even a single day of retrospection shows how utterly absurd that ugly little claim was.

I think people will look back on this case in the same way we look back at the Fatty Arbuckle case. Those like Belboid who insisted on Knox's guilt, even when the evidence clearly refuted them, will be seen as dupes of the sadistic, misogynist media with its "tough on crime," authoritarian agenda.

The palpable loathing that Belboid displayed for Knox is easily transferrred onto "criminals" in general, and from there onto the lumpenproletariat or "chavs," and from there... well pretty much anywhere really, to judge from the behavior on display here.

 

[Fedayn]

So simple it's a wonder that even you cannot grasp it.

In fact, if you'll read this again you'll see that you are agreeing with me. Do you disagree that Meredith's killer was a psychopath? And do you agree that if Knox is not a psychopath it follows that she is innocent?

You seem pretty confused here tbh.

It's possible phillip, but given you, like I, have zero evidence that Guede is a psychopath I would, ironically enough, have thought waiting for someone unlike you or I, who is qualified to make that diagnosis before making such a claim. You were repeatedly asked for your evidence and were repeatedly unable to produce a scintilla of evidence. I would have thought that surely as someone who has railed about the alleged lack of evidence in this case you would wish to wait for evidence and expert advice in such a matter before coming to such a conclusion based on your own woefully inadequate expertise and knowledge of the subject?!

What would you call it, "friendly?"

I'd call it piss-taking, ffs I hear worse from people I work with and 'er indoors. You really are a sensitive soul aren't you.

 

[phildwyer]

When I posted earlier citing occams razor and asking what seemed more likely, that a burglar broke into the house, found a girl there and attacked and killed her or the whole house conspired with a complete stranger to engage in a drug fuelled orgy and to murder a housemate with no motive whatsoever? I was attacked and my line of reasoning dismissed with contempt by the closet authoritarians who showed their true colours on here. I for one will not forget who they were.

Yep. The kind of person who will always instinctively believe the police. The kind of person who will seize any excuse to spew their hatred of "criminals" and their lust to discipline and punish. The kind of person who thinks their vile impulses can be safely displayed when a convicted murderer is under discussion. The kind of person who has been proved utterly wrong in this case.

Belobid, in a word.

 

[phildwyer]

It's possible phillip, but given you, like I, have zero evidence that Guede is a psychopath I would, ironically enough, have thought waiting for someone unlike you or I, who is qualified to make that diagnosis before making such a claim. You were repeatedly asked for your evidence and were repeatedly unable to produce a scintilla of evidence.

Dumb-bell, the evidence that he is a psychopath is that he knifed a woman to death while raping her. Not good enough for you?

 

[phildwyer]

I'd call it piss-taking, ffs I hear worse from people I work with and 'er indoors.

Yes twit, but when you respond in kind they don't go weeping to the Mods do they? Unless the Mods live in your house or you phone them up whenever you have a domestic dispute. Which wouldn't surprise me in your case actually.