Amanda Knox Is Innocent

[Fedayn]

No doubt we can expect an orderly queue, of suitably contrite Urban posters, to form all wishing to magnanimously retract some of their earlier comments directed at Mr Dwyer.

I won't hold my breath.

I tell you what, he might get those retractions when he makes a few of his own which would be alot later than any he gets for this.... Or is that too much to ask?

 

[Jeff Robinson]

 

[belboid]

No doubt we can expect an orderly queue, of suitably contrite Urban posters, to form all wishing to magnanimously retract some of their earlier comments directed at Mr Dwyer.

I won't hold my breath.

Has the judge come out and said it was all down to discrimination against hot chicks then? Cos that was Dwyers argument.

Dwyer adopted his position on the basis that he liked wanking over Knox's pic, nothing more. So nowt to apologise for, just cos this is on of the two occasions his stopped clock bollocks happened to coincide with the findings of the court.

 

[Gromit]

I considered this thread one great big troll by Dwyer.

I wonder who is more surprised by the verdict. Him or the rest of us.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

There was some interesting discourse analysis of the case on Newsnight:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/9606316.stm

 

[Mapped]

<Twat's image removed as we don't need to look at him twice on the same page>

Someone just sent me a link to this Wright Stuff episode. It's fucking unbelievable.

Foxy Knoxy: Would Ya?

So Amanda Knox has been cleared of the murder of British student Meredith Kercher. She’s entirely innocent. She’s also undeniably fit and loves wild sex. Or did. So if you were a guy who’d met her in a bar and she invited you back to hers, would you go? I’m being quite serious. Or would something in your brain make you think twice?

http://www.channel5.com/shows/the-wright-stuff/episodes/episode-187-18

 

[Lock&Light]

I considered this thread one great big troll by Dwyer.

I wonder who is more surprised by the verdict. Him or the rest of us.

The verdict has been widely predicted by many people over the last few days and weeks, based on far less contensious arguments than those used by phil.

 

[Treacle Toes]

They've actually been totally ungracious. I wasn't sitting in the courtroom as they were but even a cursory glance at the 'evidence' says these two had nothing to do with their daughter's death.

i'd be offering a sincere apology to them for calling for their heads, as they have done throughout this ordeal.

Not this.

Wow! Let's hope you never loose a family member to murder and want to see justice served.

The Kercher family have nothing to apologise for. If anything Knox and Sollectico should be apologising for lying, changing their story so much etc. Perhaps if they hadn't done so much of that the investigation may have been a bit more straight forward. Yes the Italian police have let the Kercher family down, however Knox and Sollectico didn't do themselves any favours at all either.

Your post shows a complete lack of empathy with the Kercher family and perfectly illustrates the point made by many that Meredith and her family have been totally forgotten in this charade.

 

[LiamO]

I tell you what, he might get those retractions when he makes a few of his own which would be alot later than any he gets for this.... Or is that too much to ask?

Sorry Fed, I don't know enough of your/his history to understand your post, much less comment on it.

I was just referring to some of the baiting that went on on this thread - where even a cowardly little tosser like Jerbabylondon bizarrely felt safe enough to come on and lob a few (totally out of context) stones and then a mod comes along and WARNS DWYER.

Besides, judging someone's current posts entirely through the lens of their 'previous' - rather than what they are actually posting now - is an 'interesting' line on a thread about justice, is it not?

 

[5t3IIa]

stopped clock bollocks

 

[Gromit]

re Wright Stuff prog

Bad taste drunken pub discussion at best. Followed by "Well how I'd kill Hitler if I had a time machine is..."


TV topic? Running out of ideas obviously.

 

[belboid]

Besides, judging someone's current posts entirely through the lens of their 'previous' - rather than what they are actually posting now - is an 'interesting' line on a thread about justice, is it not?

naah, his previous make him about as reliable a witness/information source as one of the junkies who claim to have seen K&S together outside the murder flat

 

[Fedayn]

Sorry Fed, I don't know enough of your/his history to understand your post, much less comment on it.

I was just referring to some of the baiting that went on on this thread - where even a cowardly little tosser like Jerbabylondon bizarrely felt safe enough to come on and lob a few (totally out of context) stones and then a mod comes along and WARNS DWYER.

Besides, judging someone's current posts entirely through the lens of their 'previous' - rather than what they are actually posting now - is an 'interesting' line on a thread about justice, is it not?

A cursory glance at phil's own baiting on here, his own ban for abuse and his own habit of making things up and absuing people who don't agree with him makes any call for him to be apologised to rather interesting.

You mean for phils little allusions to what people might see as racist jibes? What about it? What about his own remarks that Guede is clearly a psychopath but when asked for evidence he funnily enough couldn't provide it and got arsey when asked to....

 

[LiamO]

naah, his previous make him about as reliable a witness/information source as one of the junkies who claim to have seen K&S together outside the murder flat

Thanks. Kinda proves my point for me really.

 

[belboid]

No, It doesn't. If you think someones previous history of making things up is irrelevant, well, that's your problem

 

[Structaural]

The Fail published the wrong verdict before recanting, but here's the original in all it's hideous lying glory:
(better to click on the link - it's long)
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8510/falseknoxstory02.jpg

 

[LiamO]

You mean for phils little allusions to what people might see as racist jibes? What about it? What about his own remarks that Guede is clearly a psychopath but when asked for evidence he funnily enough couldn't provide it and got arsey when asked to....

professional victim Jer baby cries 'racism' 25 times per hour (anothe stopped clock?) and is forever goading people til they snap... and then running crying to the mods.... If you want to talk about 'form' let's talk about his.

you mean where Rutita used the word psychopath and he replied 'sort of. yes.' ?

And anyway, you misunderstand me. I was suggesting that those who dived in, having 'picked their side' on this debate based on their hostility to/history with Phil Dwyer rather than what he, Dylans and others were arguing, should examine some of their contributions in light of the findings of the court.

Observing this thread from a distance was illuminating in many ways.

 

[dylans]

No, It doesn't. If you think someones previous history of making things up is irrelevant, well, that's your problem

pot- kettle?

 

[LiamO]

No, It doesn't. If you think someones previous history of making things up is irrelevant, well, that's your problem

firstly, I don't know his history. I don't know if he makes things upor not. I do know that the hostility shown by some posters towards him does not seem particularly rational to me.

secondly, his OP directed readers to a Grauniad report so he is freely offering the info on which he has formed his opinion.

thirdly, even if PD did/does have a 'chequered history', does it mean that everything he posts is bollocks or should it be judged on it's merits?

fourthly, how the fuck did I manage to become PD's 'champion'?

 

[Jon-of-arc]

No, no presumption is made by the investigating magistrate(s). That's left to the prosecution and defence, and their cases.

doesnt sound like an important distinction to me. You're either guilty or your not, after the verdict (which is what we were actually talking about...).

 

[Jon-of-arc]

Except, perhaps, the prosecutor(s) credibility and ability to practice at law. Who wants lawyers that shitty or tainted?

I'm sure they'll be alright.

 

[belboid]

pot- kettle?

talking about yourself again?

firstly, I don't know his history. I don't know if he makes things upor not. I do know that the hostility shown by some posters towards him does not seem particularly rational to me.

secondly, his OP directed readers to a Grauniad report so he is freely offering the info on which he has formed his opinion.

thirdly, even if PD did/does have a 'chequered history', does it mean that everything he posts is bollocks or should it be judged on it's merits?

fourthly, how the fuck did I manage to become PD's 'champion'?

Actually, people largely did argue strictly about the merits of the case. There were some idiotic asides thanks, mainly, to phil and the idiot garf spewing up all over the thread, as well as dwyers laughable shite about the oppression of hot chicks. Of course everyone is going to laugh at that kind of thing. But otherwise, there was a largely sane discussion about the case and the medias role within it. A discussion that was much better whenever dwyer wasn't taking part in it

 

[LiamO]

There were some idiotic asides thanks, mainly, to phil and the idiot garf spewing up all over the thread

which was started by another poster... but Dwyer and Garf get the blame? Take your blinkers of old chap. Your blindness is unbecoming.

 

[krtek a houby]

professional victim Jer baby cries 'racism' 25 times per hour (anothe stopped clock?) and is forever goading people til they snap... and then running crying to the mods.... If you want to talk about 'form' let's talk about his....

Observing this thread from a distance was illuminating in many ways.

 

[DRINK?]

Celebratory release pool party at Barrymores house

 

[phildwyer]

I was just referring to some of the baiting that went on on this thread - where even a cowardly little tosser like Jerbabylondon bizarrely felt safe enough to come on and lob a few (totally out of context) stones and then a mod comes along and WARNS DWYER.

Well exactly.

The evidence is clear for all to see, just by reading back through the thread.

It's also worth pointing out that I never, ever begin fights on here. What happens is that "some cowardly little tosser" such as you mention above decides that he has enough saftey in numbers to stick the boot in, and then goes weeping to the Mods when faced with retaliation.

 

[krtek a houby]

Well exactly.

The evidence is clear for all to see, just by reading back through the thread.

It's also worth pointing out that I never, ever begin fights on here. What happens is that "some cowardly little tosser" such as you mention above decides that he has enough saftey in numbers to stick the boot in, and then goes weeping to the Mods when faced with retaliation.

 

[phildwyer]

I was suggesting that those who dived in, having 'picked their side' on this debate based on their hostility to/history with Phil Dwyer rather than what he, Dylans and others were arguing, should examine some of their contributions in light of the findings of the court.

Of course I agree.

But I think there were other factors determining the response of the "guilters." Although they had no facts to support their opinion, certain kinds of people nonetheless very much wanted her to be guilty. The instinctively authoritarian reaction of Belboid and his ilk has much to teach us about human nature and its relation to authority.

 

[Fedayn]

professional victim Jer baby cries 'racism' 25 times per hour (anothe stopped clock?) and is forever goading people til they snap... and then running crying to the mods.... If you want to talk about 'form' let's talk about his.

you mean where Rutita used the word psychopath and he replied 'sort of. yes.' ?

And anyway, you misunderstand me. I was suggesting that those who dived in, having 'picked their side' on this debate based on their hostility to/history with Phil Dwyer rather than what he, Dylans and others were arguing, should examine some of their contributions in light of the findings of the court.

Observing this thread from a distance was illuminating in many ways.

Now, shall we look at this......

Phil was the first person to use the word psychopath in post 5 , ...

There's no motive, nothing in her previous conduct to suggest a psychopath

Rutita simply replied in post 7.....

...and the guy they have already convicted, has a history that suggests he is a psychopath?

And from phil in post 8.....

Sort of, yes. Hasn't he admitted it?

And Rutita replied in post 9....

Eh? What? Do go on Phil.

Not looking so credible is he.... If you follow the posts phil then makes himsel;f look a bad silly by changing to 'petty criminal rather than psychopath'. In fact read the whole first page of this thread.....

I take it you also missed his remarks to Atomic Suplex before anyone got sarcy with him aswell?? So, the first person to look stupid, the first person to take an ad hominem swipe at people and the first person to get arsey was in fact phil himself. QED is I think what i'm looking for...

 

[phildwyer]

You mean for phils little allusions to what people might see as racist jibes?

Utter bollocks, as you know.