A thank you to Brexiteers.
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Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Useless.
The WTO rules explicity allow subsidies as long as they do not confer an unfair benefit on domestic producers.
That’s clearly not the case here. Fuck me, remainers are thick.
gosub
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Exception is also made both by WTO and EU for steel production for ships of war.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
The issue at Port Talbot is the viability of blast furnaces vs electric arc furnaces (plus, in the case of the latter, UK electricity prices). The idea that the WTO could block state aid for the conversion of blast furnaces or could intervene to prevent a cap on electricity costs in steel mills so that there is a level playing field for UK mills is frankly mental.
I try to keep off this thread because it’s full of bad faith remoaners…this is a classic example. So, bye…
I try to keep off this thread because it’s full of bad faith remoaners…this is a classic example. So, bye…
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Where is state aid mentioned?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
before
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mojo pixy
○-<{[°_°]}>-○
I don't get it. Are we ridiculing him for being against brexit, for conducting polling, for trying to oust sunak, or just for being young?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I think one obvious cause for ridicule is the juxtaposition of being a (former?) 'remoaner' activist and now working for the Trussite-loon fringe of the far right of the vermin?
mojo pixy
○-<{[°_°]}>-○
Yeah OK, but maybe he's working against Sunak because he personally can't stand the guy. Maybe there's a group of people already organising such opposition that he feels he might be able to contribute to. It doesn't mean he's sympathetic to any wider scheme of theirs, though obviously he might be. I think most importantly, politics at a high level (wherever real power is) is addictive. And actually the only really rebellious thing in parliament just now is the loon far right. There's no kind of rebellion worth talking about on the left anyway. Not in Westminster.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Probably modelling himself on the psychopathic/narcissistic personality disorder model of spadding offered by Cummings rather than any actual belief system or ideology.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
It was in inverted commas; I have no dog in that fight, tbh
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
and implementing a hard right wing Brexit. The woman activist in the Guardian article btw is now a journalist at The Times
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Smokeandsteam didn't though. I think I must have insulated myself a bit too successfully from some of the more childish end of that argument because I've not seen it in a while.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Well, as one of the lexit faithful, I'm not surprised that Smokeandsteam would use the term, tbh. I think they last paid a visit to this thread to tell us all how brexit had saved the UK steel industry.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
I wish him all the luck. Godspeed
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Really? I'd have thought that many would see incumbent Sunak as quite an LP asset?
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Possible. Or people could be further persuaded to boot them out if they descend into yet another leadership fight.
THere are no good outcomes for anyone else
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Didn't what? When?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Maybe ? More like " Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others."
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
A thank you to Brexiteers.
citation needed https://www.sei.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/decline-of-the-steel-industry-in-the-uk.pdf
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Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
A thank you to Brexiteers.
citation needed https://www.sei.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/decline-of-the-steel-industry-in-the-uk.pdf
And?
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
If you've been off this thread for a while, come back and read through the various claims and positions and decided the use of the word 'remoaner' is the "cringe" then good for you.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I thought everyone knew millbank was a large prison before it was where political parties were based. Fenian prisoners were held there in the 1860s
philosophical
Well-Known Member
So there is a new deadline of the 8th of February to restore devolved government in Northern Ireland.
Those who voted leave have created this situation.
Saying the bastard DUP don’t want to be a minority in power sharing, or the Windsor arrangement is a solution, or leave voters has a secret plan for a United Ireland is manifest bollocks from those leave voters.
They can’t accept that voting for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to leave the European Union would create two different systems either side of a land border, a situation directly in conflict with the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement.
Unionists want to be in the same leave situation as the rest of the UK, that is their reason for existing, but the quite deliberate creation of a land border by those who voted leave has brought Unionist aspirations into sharp focus and their solution would be a hard controlled land border (which would be dangerous and impractical) as the other external borders of the UK are.
The problem is the same today as it was the morning after the leave referendum.
It is almost a bit of nostalgia remembering those who promoted a technological solution, something else that couldn’t happen. Whatever happened to that ‘solution’?
Whichever way I look at it always comes back to the vile leave voting bastards have fucked things up in Ireland, hence no decent governance right now in Northern Ireland.
Those who voted leave have created this situation.
Saying the bastard DUP don’t want to be a minority in power sharing, or the Windsor arrangement is a solution, or leave voters has a secret plan for a United Ireland is manifest bollocks from those leave voters.
They can’t accept that voting for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to leave the European Union would create two different systems either side of a land border, a situation directly in conflict with the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement.
Unionists want to be in the same leave situation as the rest of the UK, that is their reason for existing, but the quite deliberate creation of a land border by those who voted leave has brought Unionist aspirations into sharp focus and their solution would be a hard controlled land border (which would be dangerous and impractical) as the other external borders of the UK are.
The problem is the same today as it was the morning after the leave referendum.
It is almost a bit of nostalgia remembering those who promoted a technological solution, something else that couldn’t happen. Whatever happened to that ‘solution’?
Whichever way I look at it always comes back to the vile leave voting bastards have fucked things up in Ireland, hence no decent governance right now in Northern Ireland.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Ooooh...cringe
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