Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Maybe he’s away looking for some more articles from 5 years ago - that add nothing - to post?
A thank you to Brexiteers.
- Thread starter MrSki
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Maybe he’s away looking for some more articles from 5 years ago - that add nothing - to post?
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
Certainly a large proportion of the billions of facebook ads targeted at millions of users were using race & immigration to scare the potential voters who had had their data stolen to influence the vote. If the referendum had been held in Switzerland (the home of referenda) it would have been declared null & void because of the lies & overspend from the leave side of things.
I am not saying that the majority voted on fears about immigration but judging by the ads they were targeted with I expect it played a large part. Along with those that wanted to protect polar bears of course.
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
Maybe he is on the shitter or having his tea. FFS give the bloke a break he is not on 24 hour callout to answer your posts.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
The Mode Oath includes a promise always to take your phone to the shitter.
Yossarian
⏭️
I'd forgotten just how terrible the Remain ads were, they'd probably have won if they'd spent the money bribing Tony Blair etc. to STFU.
www.campaignlive.co.uk
EU referendum campaigns' most memorable ads
As the UK decides whether to continue or end its membership of the European Union, Campaign has collected the most memorable ads from the campaign.
www.campaignlive.co.uk
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Pardon?
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
After calling remainers 'politically unmoored' and demanding that we come up with some well written pieces on Tuesday, you slinked away until today. Probably hoping we'd forget about your embarrassing posts.
gosub
~#
I'd forgotten just how terrible the Remain ads were, they'd probably have won if they'd spent the money bribing Tony Blair etc. to STFU.
EU referendum campaigns' most memorable ads
As the UK decides whether to continue or end its membership of the European Union, Campaign has collected the most memorable ads from the campaign.
I thought they lost because they failed to convince enough of the youth to take time off from their workin, learnin, earnin, shoppin, ravin to cast their ballot.
editor
hiraethified
Exactly where did I make the claim that is was "all" about immigration?
Back it up or slink away.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
how utterly pitiful
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Well, I’m still waiting for some well written remain thinking, a strategy, an engaged piece of work written in the now. Instead, we’ve had the same food and drink federation January export data three times, some dribble from 5 years ago, a bizarre diversion about ‘forrins’ and a suggestion that unless you support the unfettered movement of goods and people then membership of a fascist group is almost inevitable.
And you lecture me on embarrassing posts.....
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
The third of the four articles hereSeems there is, you know.
Brexit is strongly linked to xenophobia, according to scientists
‘I think the Leave campaign gave a new, acceptable way to express xenophobia’www.independent.co.uk
Brexit 'major influence' in racism and hate crime rise
Community officers are being appointed around Wales to help deal with "tensions" in some areas.www.bbc.co.uk
The Truth About Brexit and Xenophobia
The push to leave the European Union was never about anything but immigrationmedium.com
Brexit is Not Just about Exiting the European Union: A Reading List
The United Kingdom’s withdrawal from the European Union is indicative of not only its own narrow self-perception but also of the rise of an anti-immigration and racist stance put forth by right-wing groups. .tb_button {padding:1px;cursor:pointer;border-right: 1px solid #8b8b8b;border-left: 1px...www.epw.in
editor
hiraethified
Stop wriggling and find a post where I clearly and unequivocally stated that is was "all" about immigration. Off you go.
editor
hiraethified
I was linking to an article as a reference and not quoting myself. Want to try again?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
A study based on a sample of 250 people ? Have I read this right ?
editor
hiraethified
Do you think that Brexit played absolutely no part in stocking xenophobia then?
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
Well can you supply the figures for after January? How well is it going? No cos you have to wait a couple of months till you can rub my nose in how brilliant Brexit is for your average person without an off shore bank account.
Look at who backed and paid for the Brexit campaign & see yourself on the side of the far right if you are justifying those that voted Brexit to give the establishment a bloody nose then you are the much mistaken. It is the tax dodging establishment who will benefit from this and not your average person on the street.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you were linking to that article not as a neutral reference but because it agreed with the case stated that this was about the forrins. do you actually disagree that it's all about immigration? i have asked you to say why you selected those articles. but you've refused to.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
best ask editor, he feels it bolsters his pov
editor
hiraethified
You can't back up your argument because it's bullshit. But to repeat myself again: I think immigration played a part in some people voting for Brexit and the links I posted up back up that view. Do you disagree with this?
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
This again? Let’s list prominent remain supporters...Blair, the IOD, Cameron, the Bank of England, Osborne, Starmer, the CBI, the IMF, the Guardian, the ECB, various hysterical celebz and, of course, our fine elected representatives. The remain campaign outspent the leave campaign, who paid for that? Ex-miners and street sweepers?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I was asking if I had read correctly that that study you had posted was based on 250 people .
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
And the Leave campaign broke electoral rules on spending.
gosub
~#
Remain at the vary least bent the rules out of any recognizable shape
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
my argument isn't bullshit. you chose four articles to support your claim. so i can only assume that you agree with their views, being as you selected them. but my point wasn't another let's go round and see why people voted, it's about the cause which got brexit onto the ballot paper in the first place. and a large part of that was some people making a a load of money from the uk leaving. this had been going on for years, the people behind the brexit campaign had been working on this for a long time.
you may recall that a decade or so ago there were food riots in egypt and other places and it turned out that the shortages had been caused by hedge funds and speculators. a major force behind the official leave campaigns appears to have been speculators (as i linked to three articles above, none of which you've criticised). oh yeh a lot of people voted on the basis of immigration. a lot of people voted on the basis of more money for the nhs. but the people who were bankrolling the campaign were obviously going to highlight things which would win the vote. and as far as i'm concerned for the people running the show, the people who were paying the piper, it was in large measure for their own benefit and not for the people who were concerned about immigration or the nhs whose role in the process was simply to help the leave campaign to victory - ballot fodder - and whose interests would afterwards be ignored. as they have been. it's like any other election, people cast their ballot for a candidate for a number of reasons but the winning candidate doesn't give a fuck whether the people who voted for them voted for them or against someone else.
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
So how about Trade Unions that represent workers were they leave or remain?
It is the 1% who were backing leave cos it benefited them. Why were so many non domiciles with a big influence on UK politics ramming it down the throat.
Murdoch et al has been lying about the EU/EEC since I did a paper round. Bent bananas What a load of bollocks.
If I had to look at sides (that seems a bit pointless) I would rather be on the other from:
Trump
Fararge
The Daily Mail
The Telegraph
The Sun
The Times
The Express
Aaron Banks
Steve Bannon
Murdoch
smoke&Steam
& a load of tory cunt MPs that is too long to list.
funny how all the money came from dodgy sources unless you count Fararge selling dodgy investments to mugs who seemed to think he was Cesaer cos of his association with purple.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Only if you've got your (Blue) vaccine passport!The Friday night Brexit thread pub meet-up when this cursed pandemic is over is going to be carnage.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
c4uThe Friday night Brexit thread pub punch-up when this cursed pandemic is over is going to be epic.
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