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A thank you to Brexiteers.

I've been growing (some of ) my own food for 20+ years, and I'm certainly in favour of more encouragement and help to enable more people to do so, but to make this a feature of Brexit celebrations is frankly ridiculous.
Have they not hinted some sort of new deal for growing vegetables will be enabled? Allotments or some such? Public space planting?
 
Looks like there’s another round of fun and games over vaccines in the offing.

France and Germany are sitting on a couple of million doses of undistributed AZ vaccine whilst screaming that AstraZeneca aren’t sending them enough of the stuff and threatening to block exports from the EU.

Italian plod raided a factory yesterday and seized millions of doses of AZ vaccine, thinking they were bound for the U.K., when in fact they were bound for the EU and Covax countries. Regardless though, this is how the EU is now carrying on, petty, ineffectual nonsense whilst their citizens are gasping for breath.
 
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Italian plod raided a factory yesterday and seized millions of doses of AZ vaccine, thinking they were bound for the U.K., when in fact they were bound fir the EU and Covax countries. Regardless though, this is how the EU is now carrying on, petty, ineffectual nonsense whilst their citizens are gasping for breath.
They do seem to have doubled down on both undermining the Astra zenica vaccine and chucking their arrogance about over restrictive exports. A gift for the tories.
 
it’s interesting how the food producers in the UK are pleading with the gov to actually do the controls on imports as planned but gov’s not up for it, so EU pigs and everything can stroll in here no problem still for now. when are they going to start doing the delayed import checks have they said?
 
it’s interesting how the food producers in the UK are pleading with the gov to actually do the controls on imports as planned but gov’s not up for it, so EU pigs and everything Can stroll in here no problem, when are they going to start doing the delayed important checks have they said?
Which food producers are pleading?
 
The industry says the current situation with border checks puts it at a massive disadvantage - it also complains that the stringent checks on UK exports to the EU seem to be politically motivated, with 30% of UK consignments to the EU checked compared to 1% for other third countries like New Zealand.

“While this delay is convenient for a Government that wants to ensure there are no empty shelves in supermarkets, UK producers are being placed at a huge disadvantage and we have absolutely no leverage to convince the EU to change their position. It is clear that the Commission wishes to make Brexit as painful and as messy as possible to prevent any other country from following suit, so we have very little hope of improving things."

 
Government not wanting empty shelves makes sense obvs but it’s not very brexit is it, allowing cheap EU imports to dominate our breakfasts.
 
A win for our planet too, no longer will pigs be reared in the U.K., their meat sent to Germany for processing and the finished product sent back to the U.K. for consumption, we need to end more of this type of madness.

Have they not hinted some sort of new deal for growing vegetables will be enabled? Allotments or some such? Public space planting?
No idea, I'm only going on what's been posted on this thread.

I do know that demand for allotments and other growing spaces is ridiculously high all around London. Don't imagine it's much better in other large cities.

ETA sorry bahnhof, didn't mean to quote you too.
 
Why can’t they turn their pigs into sausages in the U.K?

Whatever the reason, I doubt this is the last we've heard from Helen Browning. She's gentry .. ancestral farm, senior member of the National Trust and Soil Association, Deputy Lieutenant of Wiltshire. And an OBE of course.

Wonder how she got a free newspaper advert newspaper article to promote her endeavours outline problems with brexit eh?

I suspect the 'lack of suitable manufacturer in the UK' really means, no sausage manufacturer in the UK will let us keep our own branding. But I'm not feeling charitable.
 
The industry says the current situation with border checks puts it at a massive disadvantage - it also complains that the stringent checks on UK exports to the EU seem to be politically motivated, with 30% of UK consignments to the EU checked compared to 1% for other third countries like New Zealand.

“While this delay is convenient for a Government that wants to ensure there are no empty shelves in supermarkets, UK producers are being placed at a huge disadvantage and we have absolutely no leverage to convince the EU to change their position. It is clear that the Commission wishes to make Brexit as painful and as messy as possible to prevent any other country from following suit, so we have very little hope of improving things."


This was always going to be the case though. The EU were never going to let the UK slip away without a fight, pour encourager les autres. It's a large part of why the 'give it time' argument that remoaners pour so much scorn upon, is actually extremely relevant. These things will reduce as everyone gets to realise that this is a done deal and it's in everyone's best interests to just get on.
 
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This was always going to be the case though. The EU were never going to let the UK slip away without a fight pour encourager les autres. It's a large part of why the 'give it time' argument that remoaners pour so much scorn opon, is actually extremely revelvant. These things will reduce as everyone gets to realise that this is a done deal and it's in everyone's best interests to just get on.

That seems to be what Helen Browning's is betting on by declining to invest in a UK factory - might be time for the British farmers caught in the middle to act more like their French counterparts and dump tons of manure outside Downing Street.
 
It’s fine.
I agree it’s all fine. If Boris Johnson doesn’t want to impose checks on imports from the EU then neither do I. Those pig farmers whinging on about this making foreign pork too cheap need to stop it and be happy. Diversify.
 
That seems to be what Helen Browning's is betting on by declining to invest in a UK factory - might be time for the British farmers caught in the middle to act more like their French counterparts and dump tons of manure outside Downing Street.


If there were a streaming pile of shit outside Downing St folk would assume Johnson's come out to make a speech or something.
 
This was always going to be the case though. The EU were never going to let the UK slip away without a fight, pour encourager les autres. It's a large part of why the 'give it time' argument that remoaners pour so much scorn upon, is actually extremely relevant. These things will reduce as everyone gets to realise that this is a done deal and it's in everyone's best interests to just get on.
Probably easier and less fuss to leave the British Empire tbh
 
They do seem to have doubled down on both undermining the Astra zenica vaccine and chucking their arrogance about over restrictive exports. A gift for the tories.
According to the news on TV in Portugal whilst all member states back the EU in trying to pursue promised vaccine delivery numbers and dates some states including Portugal have fallen short, at this stage at least, on endorsing EU threats to block exports.
 
it’s interesting how the food producers in the UK are pleading with the gov to actually do the controls on imports as planned but gov’s not up for it, so EU pigs and everything can stroll in here no problem still for now. when are they going to start doing the delayed import checks have they said?
The EU pigs can't stroll into the UK after they've already been converted into sausages, need a van to shift them.
This Helen Browning character seems to be something of a sausage 'value adder' rather than a sausage producer someone raises the pigs she buys to send to Germany to have someone else turn into sausages that she sells with her label on.
I'm firmly in the Brexit is the dumbest idea ever camp but I find it hard to believe it's all that difficult to set up her own sausage factory.
 
Looks like there’s another round of fun and games over vaccines in the offing.

France and Germany are sitting on a couple of million doses of undistributed AZ vaccine whilst screaming that AstraZeneca aren’t sending them enough of the stuff and threatening to block exports from the EU.

It seems the Dutch have been massive dickheads too:

France and Germany have used only about half of the AstraZeneca jabs they have received, according to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC).

As of 22 March, France has distributed 1.4 million out of 2.7 million doses available, while Germany received 3.4 million but has used only 1.8 million. The Netherlands has used only 38% of its supply.

And this is whilst their infection rates are spiralling again and people are dying in droves.

But hey, importing stuff from Germany costs a few quid more, Brits who never wanted to before now find it more difficult to live or work in the EU, wealthy pig farmers are fucked, and musician's tours are a bit more complicated. Them's the main things.
 
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